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HamPster

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Storm's getting an email . .
« on: March 23, 2004, 10:53:09 PM »
I am SICK of the shallow labels on EVERY SINGLE FREAKIN BALL.  I had to plug my new X-Factor because I drilled it stupid (layout-wise, it tracked over my middle finger), and of course once you do that, you have to resurface it a little to smooth out the plug.  The stupid thing BARELY spent 15 minutes on the resurfacer, 7 or 8 at 100 grit, a little under that at 400 grit, and the plug was BARELY smooth before a corner of the "X" in the label started wearing off!  I've been mildly irritated at that before, but it really pissed me off last night.  Here the ball doesn't even have 10 games on it, and now I won't be able to freshen up the surface as often as I'd like.  If it gets scratches or cuts, I won't be able to sand them out.  I can resurface a Brunswick ball until it's too small for the drill press cage to hold it without using a towel, and the labels will still be perfectly visable.  Sand a Storm ball twice, and your X-Factor becomes an "acto."
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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2004, 02:02:14 PM »
The labels on my Threat and Red Pulse also went FAST!

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J_Mac

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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2004, 02:04:34 PM »
what irks me is the engraving on Ebonite balls...  it's not even that smooth... and talk about shallow!
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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2004, 02:04:59 PM »
Thats bad hamster. when I got my triple X I had to go at all the labels with a toothbrush and some reacta clean . It looked like at the factory finish resurface the dust from the pads and the water had mixed and set where all the nice yellow and orange should have been was off white gunk. Then when I did get it out the paint in the labels is all bubbly and theres bits missing.
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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2004, 03:51:44 PM »
Well first of all I think you problem might lie in the fact that you are resurfacing the total ball for just some plug work done.  I have never heard of a ball having to be resurfaced just because a plug was done.  If the plug was cut properly as far down as possible to where it does not cut anything outside of the plug then the rest can be taken care of with a bevel knife and a little sand paper just around that area on the ball spinner.  I would never think there is any need to have to resurface a whole ball for a only a little bit of work that has been done on 1 square inch or so of the ball surface.  Pro shop operators help me out on this one.  Don't you(pro shop operators) out there think it is a little overkill on the resurfacing of the whole ball just for the sake of a plug?

HamPster

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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2004, 04:43:20 PM »
Point taken, but you still have to freshen the surface to have a consistent finish.  If half the ball is factory, there's no way to duplicate that on the other half.
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"2.7 million!"
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"Wait, no, that's 27 million.  27 million dollars!  YES!"
*Awkward silence*
"Just got the, uh, . . holy spirit.  You should get on that train, good ride."

Jason Kovack

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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2004, 05:02:11 PM »
How much are you taking off the ball?  I've resurfaced my Original X-Factor 3 times and everythings still in place.
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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2004, 05:11:27 PM »
It is no wonder considering you are using 100 grit. Why so course?
7-8 minutes with 100 probably removes as much as if you used the 400 for a half hour.

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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2004, 05:26:41 PM »
I was going to say the same thing.  Looks like you went a little overboard.  100 grit is for heavily tracked balls where you need to remove a fair amount of cover.  Freshening the cover is one thing, hitting it with 100 grit is completely different.
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HamPster

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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2004, 08:45:42 PM »
100 or whatever the diamond cab pads are.  The sanding disks wear fairly quickly, but I was WATCHING it the whole time because I didn't want it to take too much off.  As soon as the plug was nearly smooth, that's when I switched.  Smoothing plug doesn't take much at all, and seeing as how I'd have to freshen the surface anyway, why doesn't that make sense?  Besides, if you use a bevel knife or something to smooth the plug, you're going to end up flattening the plug, and if you end up with plug in the track, it's gonna thump all the way down the lane.  And ANY kind of label at all should thump, does the depth of the label make a difference?  If it's 1 millimeter deep or a centimeter deep, what difference does that make?  It's the same width and length at the top no matter how deep it is.
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The whenever-I-feel-like-updating-my-signature series by Hamster, presenting a quote from The Italian Job.

"2.7 million!"
"Are you sure?"
"Wait, no, that's 27 million.  27 million dollars!  YES!"
*Awkward silence*
"Just got the, uh, . . holy spirit.  You should get on that train, good ride."

JustABowler

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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2004, 10:07:37 PM »
I'm gonna chime in here. Had an anomaly that the stamp was so deep, it thumped it and on the advice of dynothane, resufaced the ball.  Also when pluging one hole its not to bad to just sand the one hole but when doing an entire plug of three or more holes it is easier to stick it in the machine and watch it go.

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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2004, 10:56:30 AM »
I have to agree with those who are questioning your plugging and prep procedure...I cut the plug off with a stationary router and then right to the ball's surface with a Master plug cutting bit.  I then put the ball in the spinner and sand that area with 400, 600 and 1200.  I then polish it to glass.  It takes about five minutes and it's as smooth as can be.  

I have done full resurfaces (by hand mind you) with 240 grit as the lowest grit.  I have some 180 grit but almost never use it.  I can't imagine having to use 100 grit for a plug job!  That is just nuts really.  

Why not put your resurfacing machine aside for the real tough jobs and just do those little plug jobs by hand, the way I described?  Trust me, it will save you a ton of time, money and aggravation!

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Re: Storm's getting an email . .
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2004, 11:12:25 AM »
How bad is your router off that you need to put that much time at 100 gritt on it?  

After I cut one down all it takes is some 320 on the plug for less than 5 minutes.