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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: wally on December 27, 2015, 05:09:41 PM

Title: optimus solid ??
Post by: wally on December 27, 2015, 05:09:41 PM
Before I buy one. Is this ball good or not so good. People who have them what do you think. It just seems like this ball has been on special since the day it was released like they just trying to push them out the door or something. Thoughts
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: freak761 on December 27, 2015, 05:52:02 PM
The Optimus Solid came out in June after most league seasons were done and by then the info on the new Roto balls was out by then so a lot of guys just waited until August to buy them instead. Love mine. True oil ball, IMO, but works well with surface changes. I just use Reacta Skuff on mine to get it down the lane a little further and increase the back end a little. Terrific ball, if you get a good deal on one and need a strong ball, then go for it.
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: WOWZERS on December 27, 2015, 05:56:28 PM
Most places have them on blow out for $110 shipped. For that price, yeah, great ball at an awesome price. I have one and am looking into getting another for the price.

I also agree with the issue of when the ball came out. June 30. All winter leagues are done, and those who only bowl winter leagues are not looking for anything until late July/early August and by then, newer stuff came out sort of overshadowing the Optimus Solid. If the ball was released in February or October, I think sales would have been greatly different.
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: wally on December 28, 2015, 08:41:16 AM
Thanks guys
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: 2handedrook12 on December 29, 2015, 12:29:49 PM
I'm confused. Some people say this ball replaced the Marvel S. But if I remember correctly, the Marvel S is stronger than the IQ Tour Nano. So how can this ball replace it if people are saying the Optimus Solid is weaker than the IQ Tour Nano?
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: WOWZERS on December 29, 2015, 01:29:14 PM
I have both, drilled the same (pin over fingers, cg in palm) and I try to keep the Optimus at 2000 abralon and the Nano at 4000 abralon. The difference I see is the Optimus has a stronger motor, so once the ball gets started, it is stronger than the Nano. However, the Nano is essentially or is a particle cover, and the cover is stronger than the Optimus Solid cover...meaning the stronger tire has a tendency to check sooner than the other ball with a weaker tire but stronger motor.

In relative terms, I still see the Optimus solid as more ball than the IQ Nano and I see enough difference on tougher conditions to have both in my bags.

I would in NO way say the Optimus Solid is a replacement for the Marvel S as the S is a Nano cover just like the IQ Nano. I have been looking for a Marvel S to go above my Optimus Solid
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: DP3 on December 31, 2015, 08:40:08 PM
This is the first ball I've thrown in years where I can't think of a condition I would throw it on. It's on a 2nd drill pin up 5" with polish and if a house shot is on the drier side of medium it's a good option. But this ball has such a lazy arc to it, I wouldn't expect it to be a boom from left to right and back reaction for anyone.
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: 2handedrook12 on January 01, 2016, 10:21:39 AM
I'm thinking about getting one because it is so lazy off the spot. I just didn't see it as a replacement for the Marvel S.
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: WOWZERS on January 01, 2016, 11:06:07 AM
Definitely not a Marvel S replacement by any means. Optimus fits nicely under the Marvel S though.

DP3...been there with that kind of ball reaction. The one that sticks out the most is the Track Inertia. If I didn't ring a 10 it was because I left a 4 pin. Make the move in and ring the 10, move out to get the 10 out and ping a 4.

Close 2nd is the La Nina. Same deal as the Inertia. Move in and I rang 10s all day and move out and I couldn't stop pinging 4s.

The one thing I have noticed in my area was several people who had issues like you sanded the Optimus Solid down and then hit it with some polish. The grittier surface helped it get into a roll and the polish did enough to make the ball not be too early to puke.

Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 01, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
The Optimus Solid looks strong and rounded and flush in my area?

Regards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: abcarr on January 03, 2016, 10:49:20 AM
For what it's worth, I've been having pretty good success with a Storm Special Agent so I contacted Storm and asked, of their current line-up, which ball is closest to the Special Agent.  The reply I got was the Optimus Solid. 
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: WOWZERS on January 03, 2016, 11:32:26 AM
I don't know what you are looking for Lucky, but the Optimus is a good heavier oil ball but once the heads start to go, unless you loft it over the spot or can McCune it, its time for the ball to go back in the bag. Ball carries well and is not a hockey stick type Storm ball reaction that most are use to. I think that in addition to when the ball was released (June 30) might be why the Optimus Solid is being blown out at so many places already. Just an opinion.
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: lefty50 on January 03, 2016, 02:07:25 PM
I couldn't resist the clearance price; mine just came in yesterday... Will be getting it punched this week. Glad to hear it "might" be a Special Agent, one of my all time favorites. That may also decide the debate of how I drill it....
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 19, 2016, 04:24:10 PM
Oh,,,,not really looking myself. 

Just posted an observation of how it looks on our harsh wet dry house shot.

Less wet/dry on the right of course where I have seen it rolled!

Regards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: WOWZERS on January 19, 2016, 05:14:49 PM
My Optimus Solid is still going strong. I bowl at several different houses between practice/league/tournaments and the Optimus Solid has not disappointed yet. Other than too dry at one house, I have been able to use it everywhere else. I have an IT Tour Nano and a Zero Gravity I ball down to. If the pattern is heavier or longer I use the Nano, if I have some bounce or drier heads, Zero Gravity it is.
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: stormtracker300 on March 11, 2020, 09:09:31 AM
Hadn't thrown my optimus solid in almost 4 seasons.  Broke it out of retirement last thursday and was reminded how good it was for me.  Also noticed it was the last storm ball I purchased.  That said, Phase 2 or roto grip idol pro...or is there enough separation to justify all 3 in my bag?
Title: Re: optimus solid ??
Post by: lefty50 on March 11, 2020, 04:27:26 PM
The Optimus solid is the one ball above all others that I'm convinced I should have been successful, and that every single person said I would hate. It hooked for me when nothing else did, but I finally learned it was "hook at my feet", at least with my drill, and it just never materialized. Having said all that, if I could find one again, I'd try it again.... but I don't know why....?