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Luke Rosdahl

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« on: February 19, 2018, 09:19:41 AM »
First, this isn't advertising or propaganda designed to squeeze money out of anyone, just letting those who are interested know it exists now.  Have had several people ask me if I would create a Patreon, which is basically a place where creators can post their work for a monthly subscription.  Nothing is changing on YouTube, not going to start restricting stuff, the Patreon thing is just extra if you'd like to contribute for some extra perks.  Here's my "pitch" or what the whole thing involves:

What I've set up first is the Master Line Tier, and it's a basic "membership," but hopefully one that is worth it.  First, you'll have access to the feed here, while I'll post some occasional generic public updates, most of it will go into the feed that only you as a patron can see.  Behind the scenes info/pictures, occasional blog posts with updates or tips or information or specific topics, etc.  Next, whenever new balls come out, it takes several days to get videos done.  The filming, writing, editing, rendering, and posting all takes a long time.  Before I get to serious work on the videos however, I'll put together a short teaser trailer with several shots from me, several shots from Angel, and some initial thoughts that will be released only to you so you will be able to get an early look at the new stuff a couple days before the reviews and opinion videos go up.  Next, there's a live chat function where I can choose to go live, and you'll be sent a notification (make sure to turn them on!) when I do so you can get on and chat with me and others live.  As I spend a lot of time out on the road and in hotels for my day job, I should be in the chat quite a bit!  Finally, once a month I'll have a live Q&A with a guest, just like we did for the Beer Frame Live, except it will be restricted to patrons only, so the crowd should be smaller and we should be able to have more of a discussion than a strict Q&A, not to mention get to the questions faster.  Hopefully that all sounds good and we can have some fun here, thank you!!!

Once I get set up, I'll include live streams from leagues, tournaments, and while I'm filming videos so you'll get an even earlier and unedited look at the equipment.  That's going to require a laptop and new camera though so it will likely be later this year before I get the funds for that.  The idea is also eventually to try and get interviews with higher profile people and professionals in the industry, hopefully travel to some professional tournaments, Bowl Expo, stuff like that, so that's the idea of where this is all heading, if the interest and support is there of course.  If this all sounds uninteresting and/or ridiculous and you're fine with what I already do, don't sign up lol, not gonna hurt my feelings, this is just extra if you're interested. 

However, not to sell myself short, I'm pretty passionate about what I do, I will always try to go above and beyond, and while I'm not where I want to be yet, hopefully it won't be long before I can have some legitimately top shelf content featuring top shelf guests and better production values and some really interesting stuff.  Just a lot of time and money to get there, and I'm grateful for those so far who've shown their support for what I already do and where we're hopefully going.  Here's the link to the page, thanks:  https://www.patreon.com/LukeRosdahl
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Re: Patreon Page
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2018, 12:38:27 PM »
Cool, I signed up.  I appreciate the amount of work you put into this and it has helped me a lot with deciding on a new ball.

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2018, 02:05:59 PM »
I will, say, AT LEAST  you know your stuff, you're very informative and not afraid to speak your mind. I will definitely check out and consider the patreon.

I'm a huge fan!
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Re: Patreon Page
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2018, 03:17:37 PM »
I'll sign up just for #hellokitty

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Re: Patreon Page
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2018, 04:48:08 PM »
A sucker born every minute

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2018, 06:23:08 PM »
I've never heard of Patreon, but took a peak at your link and the web app looks like it's made just for you.

I've been in the web business for 15 years now as a programmer and online business analyst and I'll be surprised if you can sell 100 subscriptions on an annual basis (1 year subscriptions) at $9 USD each. This is based on a quick analysis of read counts for your post and You Tube views divided by viewer repeats and bots. It would have to subsidized by targeted advertising.

But it's certainly worth a try for you.


$9 per month.
$108 per year...if I'm reading what u said correctly, it's that much per year.
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Re: Patreon Page
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2018, 06:31:39 PM »
A sucker born every minute

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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2018, 07:20:44 AM »
It's not $9, it's $5, what you saw was the total pledges up to the point you visited the page, the subscription link is on the right side of the page with the info. 

I've never heard of Patreon, but took a peak at your link and the web app looks like it's made just for you.

I've been in the web business for 15 years now as a programmer and online business analyst and I'll be surprised if you can sell 100 subscriptions on an annual basis (1 year subscriptions) at $9 USD each. This is based on a quick analysis of read counts for your post and You Tube views divided by viewer repeats and bots. It would have to subsidized by targeted advertising.

But it's certainly worth a try for you.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2018, 07:21:49 AM »
Nah, read it wrong, it's $5, not $9. 

I've never heard of Patreon, but took a peak at your link and the web app looks like it's made just for you.

I've been in the web business for 15 years now as a programmer and online business analyst and I'll be surprised if you can sell 100 subscriptions on an annual basis (1 year subscriptions) at $9 USD each. This is based on a quick analysis of read counts for your post and You Tube views divided by viewer repeats and bots. It would have to subsidized by targeted advertising.

But it's certainly worth a try for you.


$9 per month.
$108 per year...if I'm reading what u said correctly, it's that much per year.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2018, 07:51:57 AM »
Gotcha. Thx
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2018, 07:59:47 AM »
Well and that's ok, I figured I was going to get some blowback.  Again, nothing is changing on YouTube, it's not like I'm all the sudden making people pay for what I'm already doing, this is just extra for those that are interested, and if you're not, lol don't sign up . .

I don't want to get defensive or arrogant either, but this costs me a ton of money and time, and it's getting to critical mass.  Between all the forms of social media, I've fielded over 2000 comments and questions this year, 1400 on YT alone.  I love doing it, but it's getting harder and harder to justify and especially explain to the wife why I'm spending 40-50 hours a week and a few hundred bucks a month making videos and answering literally thousands of questions at all hours of the day and all days of the week.  It's got to at least sustain itself or I've got to quit, those are just the facts.  Now that's not anyone else's fault, lol I'm the idiot doing it, but nobody gets upset at writers for selling books or musicians for selling music.  All the expenses did however completely offset my tournament winnings and then some on my taxes, so . . .

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Re: Patreon Page
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2018, 08:12:01 AM »
Well and that's ok, I figured I was going to get some blowback.  Again, nothing is changing on YouTube, it's not like I'm all the sudden making people pay for what I'm already doing, this is just extra for those that are interested, and if you're not, lol don't sign up . .

I don't want to get defensive or arrogant either, but this costs me a ton of money and time, and it's getting to critical mass.  Between all the forms of social media, I've fielded over 2000 comments and questions this year, 1400 on YT alone.  I love doing it, but it's getting harder and harder to justify and especially explain to the wife why I'm spending 40-50 hours a week and a few hundred bucks a month making videos and answering literally thousands of questions at all hours of the day and all days of the week.  It's got to at least sustain itself or I've got to quit, those are just the facts.  Now that's not anyone else's fault, lol I'm the idiot doing it, but nobody gets upset at writers for selling books or musicians for selling music.  All the expenses did however completely offset my tournament winnings and then some on my taxes, so . . .

A sucker born every minute

And an a-hole every 30 seconds.

I feel it Luke and honestly respect the ambition! Don't feel any remorse for trying to get a Patreon page off the ground for your work.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2018, 08:34:34 AM »
Luke you're great at what you do. My favorite YouTuber does the same patreon thing. He includes physical things, etc as well as others. He just hit 500k subs. 

Keep pushing.  Your supporters and fans give a d@mn.
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2018, 08:46:52 AM »
Thanks.  Part of the idea too is that the cost is kind of a deterrent for the more toxic crowd you might find on a Facebook forum or something.  I want it to be a place where people can go to get away from that kind of thing.  There's a community page too, where anybody can post anything, it's not just me posting stuff for silent viewing, should be lots of interaction.  I do want to start doing drawings and giveaways and stuff too.  Lol this isn't to make a buck, I picked the wrong sport to try to get rich with, it just allows me to do more. 

Luke you're great at what you do. My favorite YouTuber does the same patreon thing. He includes physical things, etc as well as others. He just hit 500k subs. 

Keep pushing.  Your supporters and fans give a d@mn.
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Re: Patreon Page
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2018, 09:04:27 AM »
Seriously though, I had a thought.  Like I said, I want to create a really positive and good community, somewhere you can go to get away from the nonsense and get good quality information and communication, and the monthly "membership fee," helps deter toxic people, but $5 a month does sound kind of stiff . . would say $2 a month still provide the same effect, but be more agreeable?  And then once I get all the streaming equipment and get set up, then that can be the $5 a month level? 
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