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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: Metal_rules on January 07, 2020, 05:05:19 PM
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I have a Idol Pearl - is there room for both or is this overlap. From what I have seen on reviews, the P3 looks like it is more skid flip than the I/P. Or that it has a stronger back end than the Idol. I have the I/P drilled pin down, this works well for me. If I get the P3 how many have gone pin down?
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My idol pearl is pin up and my phaze 3 iis pin down. There is definitely room for both and a need on my part. My idol pearl is way more rolly than snappy. My phaze 3 is earlier and more continuous on the backend.
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My ball speed is around 14mph. I also have decent revs, probably rev dominant. Therefore many suggested I go pin down. My pro shop drilled it the same as my original Soniq, pin below middle finger. The Soniq reaction is smooth as butter. My first ball out the bag during league. The Phaze 3 is not as smooth. Probably a good thing because I aready have that reaction with the Soniq. The Phaze 3 gets through the front and midlane very clean and then makes its move. Great ball to open the lanes with. I only have a few games on it so far. It will interesting to see how it rolls when the cover settles in.
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I have not seen anyone throw anything with a Phase 3 yet. There are a ton of them on the racks but no scores. On a wall shot it looks like a trainwreck with the box surface. On tougher shots it looks overly touchy. Maybe I haven't seen the right person throw it on the right shot yet , but I have ZERO interest in it.
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I have not seen anyone throw anything with a Phase 3 yet. There are a ton of them on the racks but no scores. On a wall shot it looks like a trainwreck with the box surface. On tougher shots it looks overly touchy. Maybe I haven't seen the right person throw it on the right shot yet , but I have ZERO interest in it.
2 words for you.
1500 Polished
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I have not seen anyone throw anything with a Phase 3 yet. There are a ton of them on the racks but no scores. On a wall shot it looks like a trainwreck with the box surface. On tougher shots it looks overly touchy. Maybe I haven't seen the right person throw it on the right shot yet , but I have ZERO interest in it.
I shot 268 out the gate with my Phase3. Since.. its been a parade of 10 pins. I realize its ME.. but.. as i watch people throw it, i see corner pin after corner pin.
and yes.. it does seem to be a little touchy on heavier patterns.
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I don't mean to stir crap but is it safe to say the opinion on this ball has changed from above? By now people wouldn't admit it but quietly the tide was turning on the Timeless which haven't seen so far with this ball. P3 is for real right? Or is it just not matching up for a fair number of people? No interest myself really but want to be on right side of the hype cycle lol. Seems like Storm is selling a ton of them still so probably not pure hype at this point is my guess or maybe not being patient.
(edit: new league starting tonight so may be able to answer my own question if see some on the lanes)
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Love the Phase 2, but never liked it on a house shot. Phase 3 is probably still going to be a ball you want to keep in front of you on tougher patterns.
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The P2 at box and the P3 at 1500 abralon no polish are a great 1-2 combo.....on sport shots for me. The core is very rolly and that’s great for me on Sport but on house it’s 7 pin city. P3 out of box was horrible.
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I see Phase 3's all over the place. I bowl in 3 leagues with decent, competitive bowlers...... and I still have not seen ANYONE put up a score with one yet. I know people have to be scoring with it someplace...but I haven't seen it. It seems to be the type of ball where you go DOUBLE, BIG FOUR, DOUBLE, WASH OUT, STRIKE, 4-9, 10 pin, 9 pin ......
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FIGJAM? - I just shot 988 during a 4 game set on USBC White #2....including a 297 with it (I yanked the hell out of the last ball - total operator error). The series as a whole isn't in honor score territory but I will take 247/game on a modified house shot everyday of the week.
I really like the Phaze 3 on blended shots as opposed to cliffed. On cliffed shots it (like most polished balls with pearl in it) overreacts in the dry and skates in the puddle. On shots with a lower ratio and a decent amount of volumn, the ball is money in my hands.
To answer the OP - I personally would not have both in my arsenal. For me, they are both too similar and with my rev rate/speed, I would not see a big enough difference in total hook and ball motion.
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My P3 is a perfect compliment to my older lane shined IQ Tour which is usually my first ball out of the bag. The P3 is about 3 boards stronger overall with more pop down lane. I have the identical pin up layout on both balls. When the IQ starts to plaque 10 I can make the switch to the P3, jump in a few boards and see it go through the pins stronger.
First game on an easier pattern with it (not quite THP but close enough) was in an alternate shot doubles tournament and my partner and I shot 300, he was also using a P3 at 3000, mine is at box.
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I see Phase 3's all over the place. I bowl in 3 leagues with decent, competitive bowlers...... and I still have not seen ANYONE put up a score with one yet. I know people have to be scoring with it someplace...but I haven't seen it. It seems to be the type of ball where you go DOUBLE, BIG FOUR, DOUBLE, WASH OUT, STRIKE, 4-9, 10 pin, 9 pin ......
Wow that does sound like the Timeless. Time will tell I guess (really doubt it will be that big of flop though). Didn't see any last night at league but wasn't really looking and bowl on a desert so people using mostly weak stuff.
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Throw the wrong ball at the wrong time and that’s what happens
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I have mine drilled pretty weakly pin down, 5 1/4 pin to pap, and it's really good, but I've had a lot of experience with both that cover and core, so no way I was going very strong. I can see issues for people going pin up with the shine on it . . which because of the cult of Mo not taking what he said in the context he intended it, "pin down symmetrics only leave 10 pins," makes everyone go pin up. So instead of the occasional ten, it's like BeerLeague said, it's all kinds of craziness. This one is going to look best going pin down, and/or taking the shine off. Cover is just too quick out of box for most people if you don't calm it down in one way or the other.
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I took the shine off and shot 800 with it that night.
Admittedly, I’m still having trouble with identifying in the heat of the moment if it’s going to be great or over/under, and it can kill a set quick if my guess is wrong. But when it’s the right look there is simply nothing else on the market like it.
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Out of box I hated it, put 4000 on it and it was better, now have it at 2000 and it is strong and much more controllable. it is pin up drilling, pin over ring finger. seems to take surface ajustments well.
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Just hit mine with 3000 on the spinner. Looking forward to see what it does on Saturday.