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HamPster

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First night with the Vertigo
« on: January 12, 2006, 02:18:40 AM »
Ok, drilled it stacked (4x3.5) and put the weighthole in a flare increasing location (right of my thumb about 4 inches).  Left it in box, 800 grit.  The first house I used it at is a 41 foot pattern, medium-high oil volume with sharp backends.  I started at straight up 8 at about 17.5 mph and 250 revs.  It was hook/setting, or hook/stopping and was kinda hitting flat, plus it was overhooking.  Moved a little left.  Still hook/stopping and hitting flat, left a REALLY flat 10 my first ball out of practice.  My diagnosis (which was correct, as I found out later that night) was that it was burning up too much on the backend, because it was rolling and revving great before it started to move.  Played about 15 out to 7 and back in.  Great reaction, all I left were a couple flat 10's (and a fill ball 9) for 268.  Then I started coming in a little high, 4 pins like crazy.  Tried to play through the burn and just increase my speed.  Very very bad idea.  The ball was still reacting great, but it started the hook/stop thing on the backends again.  So yes, it was burning too much energy, but I was still getting to the pocket.  Worst game I've had in weeks, 187.  Last game I moved RIGHT (yes, dumber move . . ) to see if getting a better angle on it would help the carry.  Minus the 8 pin, and two ring 10's, it was doing great, until I let up a little on one and it dove.  Switched to the Depth Charge to finish with 210.  665 is 665, but it's also my lowest set at that house in the last 10 weeks . .  

Next house, synthetic house where the oil volume has been kicked up significantly.  BEFORE THE LEAGUE, I took the surface up to 1500 grit polish.  Still kind of a short pattern, but a lot more oil.  Stupid me, yes, I started going down and in.  I've had a lot of trouble with over/under there before, so I wanted to keep things tight.  The smoother reaction plus more oil helped a little, but I was still getting hook/stop, mostly I'm guessing because of the outside dry.  Moved to my next stop, 15 to 7, and it was doing ok, but nothing special.  Finally in the 10th of my last game, I moved quite a bit deeper, about 22 out to 8, and it came alive.  More oil, a tad slower speed, and a lot more revs, and it was absolutely beautiful.  All 3 in the 10th were just great.  I'm not used to a ball liking oil that much.  But yes, I know where to play with it now.  It still does more of a hook/set, but it rolls and revs up great, so I'll have no worries and no problem getting the ball where it needs to be to find the 1-3.  Once I get my head on straight, it'll be great.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: First night with the Vertigo
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2006, 12:12:21 AM »
That is a strong pin on a strong ball!  Where is the mass bias??

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PS I almost don't anyone who drills stuff from their masterline that strong!

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Re: First night with the Vertigo
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2006, 10:01:50 AM »
Mass bias is about 2 inches right of my thumb.  I think I'm gonna have to redrill it weaker, it's just acting too touchy.  I took the surface back down with a green scotchbrite pad so I could play deeper, but I've really got to hit the piss out of it to get it to rev up whatever the surface is, otherwise it burns up too much on the backend.
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Re: First night with the Vertigo
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2006, 11:51:16 AM »
I'll try that.
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Re: First night with the Vertigo
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2006, 01:45:23 PM »
Chris of Buddies pro shop does a great job on analyzing these super high flare balls and drilling them in his reviews both here and at bowling reviews.com.

Main point is super high flare balls of .58 to .60 diff should have the pin hardly ever that close to PAP.

Yes....weaken surface first!

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Luckylefty
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Re: First night with the Vertigo
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2006, 02:17:55 PM »
Lol, I wanted something that would hook though.  There's a lot of head oil at the house I was bowling at last night, and if I tried to play the middle oil, the thing would just skate, but if I tried to get it out to where it'd come back, it'd be really flat if I didn't hit the piss out of it.  Just might have to redrill it.
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Re: First night with the Vertigo
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2006, 02:53:26 PM »
I drilled both my Super Charges the same way, and they were absolute animals.  They'd rev up great, hit better than any ball I've owned, and always came up.  The Vertigo and I haven't hit it off like that yet.  If anything I'd think the SC core is stronger, even though I know the coverstock is weaker.
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Re: First night with the Vertigo
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2006, 08:29:48 PM »
I love the Vertigo, absolutely love it. I play a down and in shot with it, but around the 2nd arrow. It comes in nice and hard, and when it hits the pocket, it doesn't leave anything down. Just gotta keep my release consistant and make sure I don't let it go out and hit the dry boards, otherwise it'll go Brooklyn, but still will hit the strike about 70% of the time. My favorite ball ever and first out of the bag.

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Re: First night with the Vertigo
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2006, 03:12:09 AM »
I worked with mine some more tonight.  It needs a lot more speed, but also needs a lot of revs.  It almost wants me to try to push it through the breakpoint.  Took it to 1500 grit wetsand.  It's going to be an iffy ball for me at best.  Plus it got a nice sized gash cut out of it in the two games I practiced with it, and it's right in the track.  So much for any sale value now.  It's too deep to resurface out.  I did pull my old Triple Xtreme off the wall and fix it up.  It's better than I remembered, it's doing what I wanted the Vertigo to do.  It's also drilled much weaker . .
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