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Title: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: lilpossum1 on August 12, 2015, 09:25:25 AM
What can I do? I encountered super dry lanes Sunday night. My Misfit pearl was burning up kept coming in light with no drive. I brought out the pitch black and it hooked up so early I couldn't keep it right of the head pin. I was better off with the misfit
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: Luvswatch on August 12, 2015, 09:36:57 AM
Polish the Pitch Black and/or come up more from the back.
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: cory867 on August 12, 2015, 09:59:26 AM
Polish the Pitch Black and/or come up more from the back.

The pitch black does not take polish well.
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: lilpossum1 on August 12, 2015, 10:01:57 AM
I already polished it lol. I did that when I first realized how strong it was. I didn't try coming more up the back
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: Luvswatch on August 12, 2015, 10:19:11 AM
Well, the Pitch Black is the strongest urethane currently on the market...  :P
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: kidlost2000 on August 12, 2015, 10:31:55 AM
Were you lofting the gutter?
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: lilpossum1 on August 12, 2015, 11:24:37 AM
Which gutter? I moved from the 7 board at the arrows to the 15 board at the arrows trying various lines. In every case, the ball picked up way too early and arced away. Once I reached the 15 board, I kinda gave up and though that the ball wouldn't have enough pop to carry deeper angles since it was urethane
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: kidlost2000 on August 12, 2015, 11:29:25 AM
You couldn't  adjust with the misfit at 15 or try getting deeper with the misfit or something more aggressive?

Are you left handed by chance?
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: Urethane Game on August 12, 2015, 12:19:01 PM
With Urethane, the "pop" comes from your release.  If they were hooking as much as described, you probably wouldn't need to work the ball very hard to get it to return. 

It sounds more like you were fighting the heads which as kidlost suggests means moving your feet further left along with your target. 
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: leftybowler70 on August 12, 2015, 01:45:31 PM
I wish I had your problem, lol.   When I first used it, it read perfectly, early with a smooth continuous motion, but for the last 5-6 months so so, it goes 50 feet, and 6/7 out of 10 times, it rolls out, and I've adjusted to almost at every surface possibles, even used a scotch brute pad  ( which I posted on here with no luck).

I give up on it (left handed) it's now a expensive spare ball. I'm also aware that it's a very conditional ball, but when your playing up 5-10 and it rolls out, it's time for a change.
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: 2handedrook12 on August 12, 2015, 02:14:24 PM
Adjust the surface with newspaper.
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: Good Times Good Times on August 12, 2015, 02:30:34 PM
Why not go 20ish or deeper at the arrows with the Misfit?
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: J_Mac on August 12, 2015, 02:34:21 PM
Remember... Conventional urethane has more friction in the oil than reactive urethane and less friction on the dry than reactive urethane.

The adjustments I make with urethane are usually parallel... with reactive equipment I usually move my feet more than my target.
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: Brandon Riley on August 12, 2015, 04:36:21 PM
Urethane is earlier, flatter and provides less recovery off dry boards than reactive making it awesome for short patterns like cheetah.  I can't imagine many scenarios where I would want earlier hook on dry lanes and unfortunately many bowlers have been given bad information resulting in sales of urethane balls for dry lanes.
 
I'd recommend adding polish to your Misfit and continuing to move left while making hand tweaks to get the ball to shape correctly.
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: txbowler on August 12, 2015, 05:24:26 PM
On the type of conditions you describe, I would try plastic with a non-pancake core.  Several available today and the core helps greatly with carry.  I have the no longer available XXXL from lane 1.  But have watched others throwing the hammer version dominate dryer conditions as the plastic will still clear the heads and the core will carry
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: lilpossum1 on August 12, 2015, 08:17:37 PM
I probably should have moved in to 20. I have no experience playing that deep so I didn't even think about trying to get that deep
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: kidlost2000 on August 12, 2015, 09:09:02 PM
lilpossum1 without video of you bowling it is hard to give advice but I will say this if you are right handed and not moving in past 15 you have a lot more lane to take advantage of.

When the lanes start getting dry in the heads too many bowlers try balling down and throwing it in the same spot thinking it will work...including plastic. Keep moving in and let the ball do the work.

The graph shows what a lot of bowlers do and have success with. You can make parallel moves or if needed move in a little more and project the ball further right if needed.

 


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Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: lilpossum1 on August 12, 2015, 09:46:32 PM
My problem is I have always had quick feet with my timing not necessarily being early, it was still earlier than what is probably optimal for being able to move inside. Last night, I practiced with slowing down my first two steps in a five step approach. My timing allowed me to have a higher rev rate and a better ball reaction in general. I don't know if it was a coincidence or not but my accuracy improved. Anyway my point is that I have never been comfortable moving in. Last night I wasn't scared to move in at all. I could trust my ball to make the corner because I never felt like the ball was too under revved to make the corner (if that makes sense)
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: avabob on August 13, 2015, 10:27:59 AM
Urethane is of much less benefit on totally scorched lanes, than on broken down lanes that still have some oil.  Tame pearl resins that will recover stronger on the back end allowing you to get super deep are better options.  My blue hammer at 4000 wet sanded can be an awesome ball, but only when I can stay right and not go away from the pocket. 
Title: Re: Pitch black not the dry lane ball I wanted
Post by: lilpossum1 on August 13, 2015, 07:11:11 PM
I always thought that urethane would be better on dry lanes. Well I learned something new today