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Luke Rosdahl

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Pro-Motion Video Review
« on: July 04, 2019, 08:54:42 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfUWn9bScIs&lc=z22txdnb1py4inma404t1aokgqtgu52s03w3e5btfxqark0h00410

So I realize the intro is . . hammy . . but I found a cool effect with the silver logo and the rest kind of fell together so I deserve any and all heat I'll take over that . .

Now about the ball, it's just legit.  I think it's pretty obvious to see who it's going to be good for and who it might be iffy for, and I come right out and say as much in the video, I'm not brown-nosing and staffering hard the WHOLE video, but all jokes aside, I'm a fan and I WILL defend my position.  I'd ask everyone to take a good hard serious look before just dismissing it as hype or another Belmo ball, but I also get if you just don't want anything to do with it.  Thanks and happy 4th. 
« Last Edit: July 04, 2019, 09:31:35 PM by Luke Rosdahl »
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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2019, 09:14:00 PM »
frankly; the video deserves a dislike for intro alone.

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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2019, 01:31:32 PM »
I thought it was a good video. We get a "free" Storm/RG ball for the summer PBA league we bowl in. My son is bowling with me and doesn't want a Storm/RG ball, so I'm taking his. Urethane is pretty much my best look on the current house shot, but I'm definitely going to grab the Pro Motion. Unless they change things - which I've been told they are - it will likely be too much ball for house. But I already have a Hot Cell and Fever Pitch, plus a bunch of other urethanes. Going to get the IQ Emerald as well. If they don't work on house, there's always tournaments.

The Pro Motion does look very good though. Everyone is just quick to hate based on the Timeless and Drive. I found the Timeless to be over/under, but worked decently at 3000 grit. I did give it to my oldest son though. He does well with it. Did not have a Drive, but I saw others with it. Wasn't impressed. This ball does not look like those. And I'm a sucker for vanilla...

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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2019, 02:13:13 PM »
The hype train is steaming down the tracks and some staffers whom I trust say this ball is going to rank up there with Hyroads and IQ Tours. Every staffer Iíve spoken with (8) said they will die on this hill.
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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2019, 11:05:57 PM »
The hype train is steaming down the tracks and some staffers whom I trust say this ball is going to rank up there with Hyroads and IQ Tours. Every staffer Iíve spoken with (8) said they will die on this hill.

So it's gonna be like the fight and phaze...got it
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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2019, 10:58:30 PM »
Nah bruh lol. The proof will be there for this one, Iíd almost tell people not to run out and get it when it releases, give it all the time you need. Actually watch the PBA League coming up next week, these should be all over the place. Iíd expect a lot of the women to be throwing them too. Much more a tournament ball than a league ball, but these are gonna look good on house shots too to control those big cliffed shots. I hate being a staffer for balls like this because of how itís going to be received, but it is what it is.

The hype train is steaming down the tracks and some staffers whom I trust say this ball is going to rank up there with Hyroads and IQ Tours. Every staffer Iíve spoken with (8) said they will die on this hill.

So it's gonna be like the fight and phaze...got it
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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2019, 06:25:33 PM »
Nah bruh lol. The proof will be there for this one, Iíd almost tell people not to run out and get it when it releases, give it all the time you need. Actually watch the PBA League coming up next week, these should be all over the place. Iíd expect a lot of the women to be throwing them too. Much more a tournament ball than a league ball, but these are gonna look good on house shots too to control those big cliffed shots. I hate being a staffer for balls like this because of how itís going to be received, but it is what it is.

The hype train is steaming down the tracks and some staffers whom I trust say this ball is going to rank up there with Hyroads and IQ Tours. Every staffer Iíve spoken with (8) said they will die on this hill.

So it's gonna be like the fight and phaze...got it

Iím very interested in the comparison between this, Idol Pro, and Phaze 2. All 3 will be fighting for that particular spot in my bag come tournament season, which my Phaze 2 currently holds.
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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2019, 10:10:01 PM »
I am looking for a good benchmark ball, so I have pre ordered it.
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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2019, 11:04:58 AM »
Idol Pro is quite a bit boomier on the backend than the PM or P2, it's a nice compliment if you want to keep moving left with a similar roll and similar hook potential, but the PM or P2 get soft from deeper angles, this one really moves on the backend.  I bowled the last two games of singles with it at nationals over the weekend and it looked really good.  I actually think the scope of use is greater with the Idol Pro than the Pro Motion.  The Pro Motion is the better ball by a very thin hair, because it's quite a bit more versatile, but for the general bowling population, I think the Idol Pro is going to be more popular.  Power for the straighter bowler that they generally don't see, recovery and big drive from deep for the high rev guys that usually see wiggle in the soup, but the one "fault" I guess you'd say is that it's gonna move on friction, it's just going to go, but that's also its strong point, depends on how you look at it.  The Pro Motion looked great on both the team and doubles and singles patterns at Nationals, my best games were with it, but it was too much from straight on the team pattern and I had it at 2000, and the doubles and singles pattern had almost as much friction, so I wasn't getting any push in the middle when I moved in, so that's when I went to the Idol Pro.  It came out for exactly one shot in team and went back in the bag, way too much downlane.  From 4th-5th arrow on singles it was great but by then the shot was transitioning every other frame, and some really good shots off my hand went through the nose. 

So basically it's a really great compliment to the Phaze 2 or Pro Motion, it would NOT fit in that spot.  P2 and PM are great at blending the pattern, the Idol Pro is good at enhancing friction. 

Nah bruh lol. The proof will be there for this one, Iíd almost tell people not to run out and get it when it releases, give it all the time you need. Actually watch the PBA League coming up next week, these should be all over the place. Iíd expect a lot of the women to be throwing them too. Much more a tournament ball than a league ball, but these are gonna look good on house shots too to control those big cliffed shots. I hate being a staffer for balls like this because of how itís going to be received, but it is what it is.

The hype train is steaming down the tracks and some staffers whom I trust say this ball is going to rank up there with Hyroads and IQ Tours. Every staffer Iíve spoken with (8) said they will die on this hill.

So it's gonna be like the fight and phaze...got it

Iím very interested in the comparison between this, Idol Pro, and Phaze 2. All 3 will be fighting for that particular spot in my bag come tournament season, which my Phaze 2 currently holds.
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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 12:36:06 PM »
Idol Pro is quite a bit boomier on the backend than the PM or P2, it's a nice compliment if you want to keep moving left with a similar roll and similar hook potential, but the PM or P2 get soft from deeper angles, this one really moves on the backend.  I bowled the last two games of singles with it at nationals over the weekend and it looked really good.  I actually think the scope of use is greater with the Idol Pro than the Pro Motion.  The Pro Motion is the better ball by a very thin hair, because it's quite a bit more versatile, but for the general bowling population, I think the Idol Pro is going to be more popular.  Power for the straighter bowler that they generally don't see, recovery and big drive from deep for the high rev guys that usually see wiggle in the soup, but the one "fault" I guess you'd say is that it's gonna move on friction, it's just going to go, but that's also its strong point, depends on how you look at it.  The Pro Motion looked great on both the team and doubles and singles patterns at Nationals, my best games were with it, but it was too much from straight on the team pattern and I had it at 2000, and the doubles and singles pattern had almost as much friction, so I wasn't getting any push in the middle when I moved in, so that's when I went to the Idol Pro.  It came out for exactly one shot in team and went back in the bag, way too much downlane.  From 4th-5th arrow on singles it was great but by then the shot was transitioning every other frame, and some really good shots off my hand went through the nose. 

So basically it's a really great compliment to the Phaze 2 or Pro Motion, it would NOT fit in that spot.  P2 and PM are great at blending the pattern, the Idol Pro is good at enhancing friction. 

Nah bruh lol. The proof will be there for this one, Iíd almost tell people not to run out and get it when it releases, give it all the time you need. Actually watch the PBA League coming up next week, these should be all over the place. Iíd expect a lot of the women to be throwing them too. Much more a tournament ball than a league ball, but these are gonna look good on house shots too to control those big cliffed shots. I hate being a staffer for balls like this because of how itís going to be received, but it is what it is.

The hype train is steaming down the tracks and some staffers whom I trust say this ball is going to rank up there with Hyroads and IQ Tours. Every staffer Iíve spoken with (8) said they will die on this hill.

So it's gonna be like the fight and phaze...got it

Iím very interested in the comparison between this, Idol Pro, and Phaze 2. All 3 will be fighting for that particular spot in my bag come tournament season, which my Phaze 2 currently holds.

Excellent break down Luke - I appreciate it!
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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2019, 04:01:26 PM »
So basically, I can ELIMINATE the majority of my benchmark pieces for this one.... decisions, decisions.  🤔

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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2019, 06:32:27 PM »
"We'll die all on this hill", " I can eliminate everything else"... It's time to start playing "You can do magic" as the background music every time this ball is mentioned....

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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2019, 07:05:51 PM »
How is this ball even a benchmark?  Don't you generally want to be able to go at least two balls up from your benchmark?  IMO even the GB3 is pushing it strength wise for a benchmark (love that ball though).  This might be a great ball (Luke usually (edit: almost aways) is right) but yeah probably not going to want to use it on 30 foot patterns so might not want to retire half your arsenal yet.

(edit: 9 boards stronger than an IQ Tour solid, silly strong, in fact according to DOPLAR it very close to the Crux Prime (less than a board) which makes sense, there is no step up from this benchmark lol)

(edit2:  sure its versatile for how strong it is but this ball screams Nationals ball to me)
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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2019, 07:50:23 PM »
Who said you could eliminate everything else?  I wouldn't . .

"We'll die all on this hill", " I can eliminate everything else"... It's time to start playing "You can do magic" as the background music every time this ball is mentioned....
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Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2019, 09:51:25 AM »
I got the chance to throw this ball yesterday at a demo day.  Yes it has a belmo logo on it..

That is the only thing it has in common with the other belmo balls.

There is not a spot on the lanes you cant use this ball, it will turn the corner from any part of the lane.  I would compare it to an Idol, that does not start to puke when you get deep with it.