win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: Pro-Motion Video Review  (Read 7310 times)

Luke Rosdahl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1093
Pro-Motion Video Review
« on: July 04, 2019, 08:54:42 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfUWn9bScIs&lc=z22txdnb1py4inma404t1aokgqtgu52s03w3e5btfxqark0h00410

So I realize the intro is . . hammy . . but I found a cool effect with the silver logo and the rest kind of fell together so I deserve any and all heat I'll take over that . .

Now about the ball, it's just legit.  I think it's pretty obvious to see who it's going to be good for and who it might be iffy for, and I come right out and say as much in the video, I'm not brown-nosing and staffering hard the WHOLE video, but all jokes aside, I'm a fan and I WILL defend my position.  I'd ask everyone to take a good hard serious look before just dismissing it as hype or another Belmo ball, but I also get if you just don't want anything to do with it.  Thanks and happy 4th. 
« Last Edit: July 04, 2019, 09:31:35 PM by Luke Rosdahl »
Storm Amateur Staff
Turbo Regional Staff
www.stormbowling.com
www.turbogrips.com
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/LukeRosdahl
Twitter: @LukeRosdahl

 

Jesse James

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3604
Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2019, 03:29:35 PM »
After watching the PBA League finals. I think the Pro Motion has the "LOOK" that I envisioned the Idol Pro to have!

Watching them throw the Idol Pro......I was disappointed!

It might be worth a try for sure.
Some days you're the bug....some days you're the windshield...that's bowling!

JamminJD

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1194
Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2019, 09:00:02 PM »
After watching the PBA League finals. I think the Pro Motion has the "LOOK" that I envisioned the Idol Pro to have!

Watching them throw the Idol Pro......I was disappointed!

It might be worth a try for sure.
Yep I got the same feel as you. Idol pro might turn out to be a great ball, but the pro motion looked the best in that short time frame..

JazlarVonSteich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 419
Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2019, 11:47:48 AM »
After watching the PBA League finals. I think the Pro Motion has the "LOOK" that I envisioned the Idol Pro to have!

Watching them throw the Idol Pro......I was disappointed!

It might be worth a try for sure.

Some Storm/RG staffers/reviews said the Pro Motion would shine on sport, and the Idol Pro would shine on house. 

Rileybowler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3458
Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2019, 01:24:43 PM »
When Stu used this ball the first time he could not miss strike after strike and then the next time it was 10 pin after 10 pin after 10 pin. I didn't really see any great difference in this ball than any other ball. Now if it becomes as some have stated that you can use this ball on any condition then my question would be why did Stu not keep striking with the ball on the next night after all he is a pro.
Carl
Bless the LORD o my soul and all that is within me bless his holy name

Jesse James

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3604
Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2019, 09:43:13 PM »
When Stu used this ball the first time he could not miss strike after strike and then the next time it was 10 pin after 10 pin after 10 pin. I didn't really see any great difference in this ball than any other ball. Now if it becomes as some have stated that you can use this ball on any condition then my question would be why did Stu not keep striking with the ball on the next night after all he is a pro.

Even a Pro, sometimes gets stubborn and does not change their angle entry! His angle entry was off, just by a smidgeon!!
Some days you're the bug....some days you're the windshield...that's bowling!

Luke Rosdahl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1093
Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2019, 11:02:55 PM »
Wes was seriously the only one on the last couple rounds that carried with any consistency, so given the benchmark of what happened to literally everyone else, all those other pros that sometimes didn't even hit the pocket, let alone strike when they did either still led me to the impression that it performed as good if not better than anything else.  If everyone else was striking and those using the PM weren't, then you have a case, but getting the pins down was super tough for everyone the last couple rounds so I'm not sure how you can nitpick on a handful of super hard wrap 10s when the ball was still hunting for the 7 pin from 4th and 5th arrow . . it still sounds to me like someone wanting to dislike the ball. 

It's also not a magic ball, no one said it was, it just rolls really nicely and has some reaction features that add up over time but physics are still physics, you still have to know what you're doing and throw it well, but given those conditions, it's going to perform as good as or better than other similar balls.  The Phaze 2 is a really good ball, the IQ Emerald is, the Idol Pro is, etc., but saying they're good balls doesn't mean they're going to magically hit the pocket more or strike more, it means they make it easier for you to stay in the pocket and easier for you to get the pins down more often . . the main key ingredient is still you.  It's a great tool, and one of the best ones out there, you're still not going to get very far if you're using a screwdriver on a nail though . . and going back to the PBA league, what else looked better than the Pro Motion and those throwing it aside from Wes and his Emerald??

When Stu used this ball the first time he could not miss strike after strike and then the next time it was 10 pin after 10 pin after 10 pin. I didn't really see any great difference in this ball than any other ball. Now if it becomes as some have stated that you can use this ball on any condition then my question would be why did Stu not keep striking with the ball on the next night after all he is a pro.
Storm Amateur Staff
Turbo Regional Staff
www.stormbowling.com
www.turbogrips.com
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/LukeRosdahl
Twitter: @LukeRosdahl

Rileybowler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3458
Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2019, 09:59:16 AM »
Wes was seriously the only one on the last couple rounds that carried with any consistency, so given the benchmark of what happened to literally everyone else, all those other pros that sometimes didn't even hit the pocket, let alone strike when they did either still led me to the impression that it performed as good if not better than anything else.  If everyone else was striking and those using the PM weren't, then you have a case, but getting the pins down was super tough for everyone the last couple rounds so I'm not sure how you can nitpick on a handful of super hard wrap 10s when the ball was still hunting for the 7 pin from 4th and 5th arrow . . it still sounds to me like someone wanting to dislike the ball. 

It's also not a magic ball, no one said it was, it just rolls really nicely and has some reaction features that add up over time but physics are still physics, you still have to know what you're doing and throw it well, but given those conditions, it's going to perform as good as or better than other similar balls.  The Phaze 2 is a really good ball, the IQ Emerald is, the Idol Pro is, etc., but saying they're good balls doesn't mean they're going to magically hit the pocket more or strike more, it means they make it easier for you to stay in the pocket and easier for you to get the pins down more often . . the main key ingredient is still you.  It's a great tool, and one of the best ones out there, you're still not going to get very far if you're using a screwdriver on a nail though . . and going back to the PBA league, what else looked better than the Pro Motion and those throwing it aside from Wes and his Emerald??

When Stu used this ball the first time he could not miss strike after strike and then the next time it was 10 pin after 10 pin after 10 pin. I didn't really see any great difference in this ball than any other ball. Now if it becomes as some have stated that you can use this ball on any condition then my question would be why did Stu not keep striking with the ball on the next night after all he is a pro.


I wasn't knit picking I was simply stating what I saw with the hype of this particular ball. I am not a Storm hater, although I do use Roto Grip a lot . As to the other statement that pros become stubborn about moving deeper, Stu did move deeper with the same results.
Carl
Bless the LORD o my soul and all that is within me bless his holy name

Luke Rosdahl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1093
Re: Pro-Motion Video Review
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2019, 10:51:06 AM »
One other thing I wanted to point out which I think is the most important facet of the Pro Motion reaction is the consistency of the read, which I think was VERY evident at the PBA League.  The other bowlers had pretty different experiences between the right and left lanes, and the Pro Motion tends to read the lane more than the oil pattern and maintain a more similar reaction and motion from lane to lane than traditional resin does, and this was impressed on me at nationals.  The Pro Motion read both patterns virtually the same, while the Idol Pro was not usable in the slightest on the team pattern, but was pretty nice on the doubles and singles pattern.  The difference in reaction of every other ball I threw on both shots was stark and obvious, while the Pro Motion did nearly the same thing on both patterns. 

The downfall to this of course is that it can be difficult when ball changing from or to the Pro Motion (and the Crux Prime) because it tends to mute smaller details on the lane that typical resin balls, even stuff like the IQ Tour Solid, would pick up on.  Again, either a good or a bad thing as if you CAN use the Pro Motion, it ignores or resists transition literally better than any other ball I've thrown, but if you can't use it, it's probably going to take you a frame or two longer to make a ball switch than usual because you're going to see the transition details more vividly with other balls. 

So without bias and being a homer, there are things it does that are literally better than the rest of the balls out there, seriously, BUT it's not without its drawbacks . . which I think still results in a net gain.  It ignored the difference between the two lanes that every other player saw at the PBA League, and that's something immeasurably important to me as a tournament bowler.  If it's in play on a certain pattern, it's going to be in play from all angles the whole day unless there's a stupid amount of transition, and I haven't been able to say that for any other ball, not even the Phaze 2.  It's not about drawing up a narrative or repping my company, it's about observations and letting reaction lead me to a conclusion.  I also don't think it's a difference you're necessarily going to see out of somebody else throwing it, all bowling balls are just going to look like bowling balls going down the lane . . it's more in the finer details that really separate reactions and certain balls that are otherwise very similar.  Astro PhysiX and Halo Pearl for example are really similar visually on the lane, but feel pretty different to me, and I'd use them in different situations from different angles on the lane, and the details are what create the effective differences, not necessarily the visual ones.  This is why pros will drill two of the same ball different ways, and they'll LOOK like identical reactions, but one is just a little quicker on friction or a little slower, and the difference in feel to the bowler can make all the difference in the world. 
Storm Amateur Staff
Turbo Regional Staff
www.stormbowling.com
www.turbogrips.com
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/LukeRosdahl
Twitter: @LukeRosdahl