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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: lane1baller on January 31, 2014, 09:38:41 AM
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Question about the fusion. What's the oob surface. I tried using on fresh house shot during league last night and couldn't till midway thru third game. Ball skidded and squirted. What would your recommendations please. Slower speed 14.5 to 15 and average revs
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1500 grit polished.
There are several possibler easons.
What ball have you been using on this condition and what is its surface?
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I use a variety balls. Lately been using virtual zero gravity or HyperCell and then are oob
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So it got better as the shot broke down?? Was lazy on fresh oil? So your tilt and surface are the problem and not layout?
This was of high contention last week with a lot if differing opinions. If you are using zero gravity and Hyper Cell effectively than the layout is not the issue. It's the surface and your tilt.
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Yes ball was very affective as shot broke down. Was very very strong and came from anywhere asking as it found dry. What surface do you recomend under the polish
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Great. That's the easiest to fix. Is start by just taking polish off with a 4000 pad. It will give it a little more bite. Keep in mind it is not as strong as zero gravity or hyper cell. I usually have good luck at 500/4000 or 500/3000 surface on fresh medium oil. With my tilt at 26 degrees I only use polish on very very weak balls and only use in lanes where the heads are burnt.
Current surface on my arsenal
Hyper Cell. 500/1000/2000/3000
Disturbed. 500/2000
Asylum. 500/3000
Lights out. 500/1000/2000/3000/4000
SOS. 500/2000 polish
Yes I do see a difference in skipping grits vs progressive grits. With the tilt I need more grip on fresh. So I skip grits, clears heads and then reads hard. I
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Yeah thanks buddy. I usually never have luck with polished balls just really loved the look of this ball
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How does the zero gravity compare to hyper cell?
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If the Hyper and Zero Gravity are good on the fresh then why wouldn't you leave the IQTF to ball down to?????
You can always hand scuff the IQTF until it reads where you want it.
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I think the zero is a lot weaker than the cell. I believe original nano is stronger. HyperCell is strongest ball ever had and I have had them all.
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So having both hc and ZG are ok?
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Zero gravity is basically a cover heavy symmetrical ball. The PSA ends up in the thumb post drill when checked on a Determinator.
Storm realizes too many pro shops STILL don't understand the differences in layout choices between the 2 types of cores.
Best part about it is many bowlers will love it on THS and it will be more versatile than the strong cover, strong core monsters that oftentimes "appear" weaker because there isn't enough oil on the lanes.
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I figured with the core it would be weaker and more useable. I'm wondering how it will compare to disturbed.
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I think it will read the mids a touch later and be a lot sharper at the break. And I think it will be more versatile than the Disturbed.
My driller laid his out 2 weeks ago with a short pin to pap since it's labeled and asym. I had him spin it afterwards and sure enough the Psa was in the thumb.
With that being said he now had an early rolling "symmetrical" but when I watched him throw it we were both surprised by the reaction at the back of the lane. Much stronger than we expected.
I will be getting one!
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I would say yes. I'm gonna keep it as my 1/2 for now
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I think the zero is a lot weaker than the cell. I believe original nano is stronger. HyperCell is strongest ball ever had and I have had them all.
Sorry I was away while this conversation developed.
I'd agree with the others. Although your ba speed is not high, your rev rate must be lowish and/or tilt high. The ZG and the HC are more serious oilers, as both are strong DULL solid covers on stronger cores, with the HC having a greater PSA strength than the ZG. The Fusion is a polished hybrid with a low RG but also a low differential. Being polished it will be a better ball for you when the heads dry up and you can't move deeper into the oil.
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I'd recommend not fighting it, if it doesnt look good til the third game, and the other balls you have do look good, dont throw it til the third game.
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My pro shop guy threw a zero gravity last night in our league. Was pretty wet last night. I was throwing Disturbed the asylum wasnt turning the corner. I have to say the ZG looked real good. He had a but more room than I did with Disturbed. It was impressive
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My pro shop guy threw a zero gravity last night in our league. Was pretty wet last night. I was throwing Disturbed the asylum wasnt turning the corner. I have to say the ZG looked real good. He had a but more room than I did with Disturbed. It was impressive
I saw one last night in action. After 2 frames of watching I knew I would be purchasing 2 of them.
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I was super impressed. I love the disturbed but this one looked great. I'm getting one!!
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My pro shop guy threw a zero gravity last night in our league. Was pretty wet last night. I was throwing Disturbed the asylum wasnt turning the corner. I have to say the ZG looked real good. He had a but more room than I did with Disturbed. It was impressive
I saw one last night in action. After 2 frames of watching I knew I would be purchasing 2 of them.
Love mine. Just need to get used to throwing 15 vs 16.
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I feel like this ball is getting more play than most do 3 weeks before WWRD.
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I feel like this ball is getting more play than most do 3 weeks before WWRD.
Your average "meat and potatoes" guy can throw it and it will give him that downlane motion but the traction of a solid all while not taking a huge boo-boo at the arrows.
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Does anyone have any thoughts on how the ZG might compare to the hyper cell?
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Just my thought. I have Disturbed and Hyper Cell. The ZG looks like it will fit inbetween them being weaker than HyperCell and just a very small amount stronger than disturbed. But a bit cleaner upfront than both. Looks like a more versatile motion. Has more back end movement that both hyper cell and disturbed but very controllable look. I will be getting in as soon as I can and will compare all three. My hyper cell is drilled too string for the ths I see. I did have a flood Friday but left hyper cell at home and threw disturbed very effectively. But the ZG my pro shop guy was throwing looked better