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BBock727

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Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« on: October 16, 2008, 03:51:52 AM »
Would these two ball complement each other?  The house I bowl at recently moved to a oiler shot.  I have my attitude shift drilled pin up and I recently polished it.  Lets just say its an utter disaster, my avg quickly when from 200+ to 175 as I cannot get this ball to move at all.  I have adjusted my speed from 16.5mph to about 15mph to force this thing to move, but I am not comfortable throwing that slow, either pulling the ball or destroying the rotation.  I am going to take the attitude shift back down to factory 2000 surface this weekend.  

Anyway, im looking to see if the Cell Pearl drilled pin under will give me a different look than my Attitude Shift pin up at 2000.  I may pull the trigger this weekend.

Again, I'm lefty, on an oiler shot, med revs, 16.5mph.  Any other info let me know.

Btw, I think the Attitude Shift was the worst ball I ever bought!

 

Dan Belcher

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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 12:36:07 PM »
You're on heavier oil conditions, and you are thinking about using a pearl ball instead of a solid?  That kind of defies logic.  Pin under will mean the ball will begin its roll a little earlier and be more arcing, but it also reduces the response to friction which will cut back on entry angle.  Pin down does not necessarily mean lots of early hook.

If the polished Attitude Shift is going too long, you should go with a strong, low RG rolly solid, like a Dimension or Cell, and keep the cover dulled.  Your goal on heavier oil conditions is NOT to make the ball hook, but rather to generate more midlane reaction in an effort to get the ball to roll more for better carry and also be less reliant on friction.  Use more of an up-the-back release to get the ball to tumble end over end more to create earlier roll, and play a more direct line with a strong ball with a solid coverstock to combat the heavier oil.  (You may need to bring your breakpoint closer to the headpin to achieve the correct entry angle, it all depends on how long the oil pattern actually is)  Then as the heads start to dry up, you can start moving in and swinging it out more, throw a ball that gets through the heads cleaner, or both.  Your polished Attitude Shift may be a good fit for this, unless the carrydown gets too heavy for the ball to react consistently.  You may want to leave it at 2000 or 4000 abralon to combat that.

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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008, 12:58:08 PM »
BBock727,

For what it's worth, Dan made some great points. Just to add to what he said, surface is your friend for oily conditons. The lower the grit of surface you use, the closer to you the ball will want to read the lane, thus reducing your skid on oily lanes.
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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2008, 01:01:41 PM »
I attack the lanes a little bit different that dan. If the backends are clean I can throw pearl or almost whatever I want. its when they start breacking down I go to something with a little more cover to cobat the carrydown. depending on the ball I can make a move left or right. I am a 16.5 to  17.5 mph 400rpm player though..

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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008, 02:05:51 PM »
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I attack the lanes a little bit different that dan. If the backends are clean I can throw pearl or almost whatever I want. its when they start breacking down I go to something with a little more cover to cobat the carrydown. depending on the ball I can make a move left or right. I am a 16.5 to  17.5 mph 400rpm player though..
While pearl stuff can definately move hard on the backend when it sees enough friction, the heavier volume of oil he's seeing means that friction won't last long, and he'll end up needing to go to a duller ball very quickly more than likely.  (And I personally rarely can use pearl equipment except for on medium to lighter conditions anyway since I'm very much speed dominant and I like to use a lot of midlane and control which pearl balls don't really offer.)

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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 02:45:01 PM »
The phrase "oiler shot?" Is it possible the backends are not clean? Or is it where the bowler is targeting is the wrong part of the lane to play?
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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2008, 03:08:30 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions.  Let me just reiterate that I plan on removing the polish from my attitude shift and taking it back to 2000.  At 2000 dull, this ball hooked quite a bit.  

I am looking to see if the Cell Pearl will complement an Attitude Shift (with its OOB surface, I do not plan on keeping my Attitude Shift at 2000 polished or it may even be 4000 polished right now as its not making a turn fast enough).  I believe that when i take the Attitude down to 2000 dull, I'll have a sufficient oiler.

Would the Cell Pearl then complement this ball?  

I would be using these 2 balls in a league so im assuming its just an oiler THS. (the guy who oils the lanes asked me what I thought about the oily pattern, so it may only be temporary, who knows).  

I do not see too many people in my league using the original CELL, i suppose because it just too much ball.  The only people who use the CELL in this league are people who have no hand at all and loft it on the lane.

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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2008, 08:36:19 PM »
bump... any other ideas?

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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 10:26:22 AM »
looking for last minute ideas for my last post.  I might pull the trigger on a cell pearl today

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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2008, 10:33:18 AM »
Change the surface on your Attitude Shift, Get the Cell Pearl and go with same drilling. I dont like pin under on pearls. As stated earlier by previous responses, surface changes are the number one component of ball reactions on the lanes.
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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2008, 10:35:51 AM »
thats what i plan on doing... Taking attitude down to 2000 grit for oil and OOB for cell pearl.

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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2008, 10:38:56 AM »
Yeah, I'd go with your gut.  I have an Attitude Shift w/a Gravity Shift underneath.  They are drilled very similar to each other.  Some pearls actually can handle oil & my gravity is one of them.  And I think the Cell pearl probably could handle it also.  I like my Attitude in oil better, but the Gravity is there for me just in case.
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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2008, 11:14:24 AM »
I am looking at the layouts for this ball and I am unsure on how i am going to drill the cell pearl.  I am currently looking at 4x4 or 5x3.  Again, I throw approximately 16mph and have a med rev rate (prob low end of med, but definately not low).

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Re: Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2008, 02:47:05 PM »
ideas?