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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: Tommy716 on February 15, 2014, 01:37:09 PM

Title: Rumor
Post by: Tommy716 on February 15, 2014, 01:37:09 PM
I just saw a rumor on another forum that Storm has bought  900 Global?
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Impending Doom on February 15, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: charlest on February 15, 2014, 02:12:18 PM
Link?

http://bowlingballexchange.com/showthread.php?t=58849 (http://bowlingballexchange.com/showthread.php?t=58849)
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: bowlingman817 on February 15, 2014, 02:34:32 PM
That rumor has been going on for some time now. It was also supposed to be for pennies on the dollar.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: MrPerfect on February 15, 2014, 08:20:46 PM
If it's pennies on the dollar that would mean one of three things: (1) Global was facing bankruptcy; (2) they owed Storm money and couldn't make good; or (3) the owners wanted to cash out while they still had a product with some value.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: vkowalski1970 on February 15, 2014, 11:13:22 PM
I hear it is confirmed....
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: J_Mac on February 16, 2014, 12:10:55 AM
and this is the state of a saturated ball market... Sad in a way, but it  does make me chuckle a little...
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Bowl_Freak on February 16, 2014, 08:44:57 AM
Well I have heard Storm has come to a deal with 900 Global to purchase. Specifics I'm not sure. But as far as plant in SA, it's still going to operate like normal.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: billdozer on February 16, 2014, 08:57:45 AM
That's cool that it will operate as normal atleast...so covers will retain the likenesses of each manufacturer? ....like everything won't become an off shoot of the reactor...
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: charlest on February 16, 2014, 10:19:36 AM
That's cool that it will operate as normal atleast...so covers will retain the likenesses of each manufacturer? ....like everything won't become an off shoot of the reactor...

God forbid!!
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: freak761 on February 16, 2014, 11:54:02 AM
Hmmm... interesting. Now Storm will own the rights to the shoes as well.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: tommyboy74 on February 16, 2014, 11:59:53 AM
Does this also mean that the AMF ball line is now part of Storm too?
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: bowlingman817 on February 16, 2014, 12:27:46 PM
To be honest, i don't think storm has any interest in the global/amf/3g line. They needed another plant to manufacter all of there balls cause the utah plant is overwhelmed as of late. When you still have iq tour solids on back order its time for another plant.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: vkowalski1970 on February 16, 2014, 12:35:59 PM
Let's see. If I can dream for a minute?

NRG cover with Break core

R2s hybrid with the Seismic blackout core

Heaven! Lol
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: milorafferty on February 16, 2014, 12:48:51 PM
But Seismic is not part of the 900 Global holdings. Storm would not get the rights to use the cores of the other companies being poured in th SA plant.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: sevenpin63 on February 16, 2014, 01:01:56 PM
Does this mean Seismic will have to find a new plant to get there balls manufactured?

And I think Global pours for a few other companies, I think?
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: vkowalski1970 on February 16, 2014, 01:15:26 PM
I'm aware. Just a dream. A
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: billdozer on February 16, 2014, 03:09:51 PM
Does this mean Seismic will have to find a new plant to get there balls manufactured?

And I think Global pours for a few other companies, I think?

Probably not, why would they turn away business?
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Impending Doom on February 16, 2014, 03:49:16 PM
I've heard news from both sides of the coin, but will keep my big mouth shut.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: charlest on February 16, 2014, 03:55:50 PM
But Seismic is not part of the 900 Global holdings. Storm would not get the rights to use the cores of the other companies being poured in th SA plant.

Neither is Lane#1.

Unless Storm dissolves the "900Global" corporation, I'd suspect they'd have to honor the contracts 900G made with Lane#1, Seismic, Elite to produce their balls.

If Storm has come to some agreement with 900Global, I'm sure one of them will announce something soon.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: jasonbaer33 on February 16, 2014, 04:34:06 PM
From what I'm being told is 900G operations will continue as normal. With this buy out Storm no longer has to pay to have balls poured, they get dips on new pours, and make the money from Seismic, Lane, and Blend 10 contracts. So now Storm has another plant and more income from the contacted pours.

But like said I'm sure we will get full details soon enough.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: jasonbaer33 on February 16, 2014, 04:36:31 PM
Also I can say with confidence Seismic will not start having scented balls. Pro shops already smell enough like a Bath and Body Works store as it is.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: ThomasR on February 16, 2014, 05:37:51 PM
As some of you know, 900 Global has been manufacturing balls for Storm for quite some time, going back several years. They have always had the need for increased capacity and production, and 900 Global has always been able to accommodate this. Storm Bowling Products has decided to invest as a primary stock holder in 900 Global's manufacturing capabilities in order to attain the extra production they need, all while allowing the 900 Global / AMF300 brands to continue to operate as is.

This is merely a manufacturing unity that will allow Storm to increase production to match current demand for their products.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Impending Doom on February 16, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Good to know, TJ. Got worried for a second there. If I wanted Utah, I'd buy Utah. Looking forward to what this new revenue does for R&D for you guys. Nick is a badass. :)
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: tommyboy74 on February 16, 2014, 06:53:59 PM
As some of you know, 900 Global has been manufacturing balls for Storm for quite some time, going back several years. They have always had the need for increased capacity and production, and 900 Global has always been able to accommodate this. Storm Bowling Products has decided to invest as a primary stock holder in 900 Global's manufacturing capabilities in order to attain the extra production they need, all while allowing the 900 Global / AMF300 brands to continue to operate as is.

This is merely a manufacturing unity that will allow Storm to increase production to match current demand for their products.

This is good news for both Storm and 900 Global.  Storm gets increased manufacturing capacity while 900 Global/AMF/3G will still be able to remain as competitors and increase their R&D due to the investment.

Now Storm has announced some changes to their leadership.
http://www.stormbowling.com/news/2014/02/4384
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Bowler19525 on February 16, 2014, 09:28:07 PM
As some of you know, 900 Global has been manufacturing balls for Storm for quite some time, going back several years. They have always had the need for increased capacity and production, and 900 Global has always been able to accommodate this. Storm Bowling Products has decided to invest as a primary stock holder in 900 Global's manufacturing capabilities in order to attain the extra production they need, all while allowing the 900 Global / AMF300 brands to continue to operate as is.

This is merely a manufacturing unity that will allow Storm to increase production to match current demand for their products.

Primary stockholder means Storm has the right to direct control of the manufacturing operations.  If they need more production capacity for Storm products, they will allocate it for their products.  900 Global/AMF may be operating as-is, but now they are at the mercy of Storm when it comes to manufacturing.

There can only be one primary stockholder, and it sounds like Storm is it for the manufacturing operations. 

Storm is more guilty than other companies when it comes to the "ball of the month" club.  Maybe they should reign in the new releases, and trim down their product line.  Do they really need to be offering 24 different Storm balls and 11 Roto Grip balls?  And that is just for the domestic market.  There are another 22 Storm international balls and 9 Roto Grip international offerings.  That is 66 balls between Storm and Roto Grip...that's just ridiculous.   
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: vkowalski1970 on February 16, 2014, 10:09:13 PM
If people are buying they will keep producing. Supply and demand. Basic economics.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Bowler19525 on February 18, 2014, 07:30:40 AM
I find it hard to believe that Storm has constant demand for all 66 models of balls.  The 80/20 rule usually applies...80% of their revenue is coming from 20% of their offerings.

If they have unending demand for every single ball they offer, then they should be the poster child for every other business in the world.

I am sure they could afford to stop production for a few weeks of Mixes and Naturals to meet demand for IQs and Zero Gravitys...then resume production of the urethane stuff when they have satisfied demand for the "hot" products.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Perfect Approach Pro Shop on February 18, 2014, 12:27:37 PM
I find it hard to believe that Storm has constant demand for all 66 models of balls.  The 80/20 rule usually applies...80% of their revenue is coming from 20% of their offerings.

If they have unending demand for every single ball they offer, then they should be the poster child for every other business in the world.

I am sure they could afford to stop production for a few weeks of Mixes and Naturals to meet demand for IQs and Zero Gravitys...then resume production of the urethane stuff when they have satisfied demand for the "hot" products.

Storm / Roto Grip is very smart at what they do. If you check the numbers, Storm only has 24 balls available in the states and Roto Grip has 11. International balls are not available to the states. Storm and Roto Grip release balls at the beginning of the season and very few through out the season. Unlike EBI, between their 4 brands, they are releasing every two weeks. Why? Because they are struggling and trying to find answers. Storm / Roto Grip does not release with every new ball stating "our R&D have developed the strongest cover stock to date" on every release. Maybe that is why all the staffers are getting off that sinking ship and jumping to Storm/RotoGrip, Motiv and DV8. Why flood the market like EBI does when you know you products are good. And yes, Motiv is making great stuff to. Maybe this Storm vying into Global will help them as far as marketing. They have good equipment, just not popular.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Impending Doom on February 18, 2014, 12:59:35 PM
Personally (If I've already said it, I'll say it again), I think that this influx of money is going to help the R&D department at 900 Global/AMF to really go above and beyond. Nick makes some awesome rolling pieces, but if the name Mo isn't on it, no one wants to look at a offset core with open eyes. I feel they're on the right track with the CFT core, and will continue to make awesome products.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Elimeno Pee on February 18, 2014, 03:40:54 PM
Seismic announced on facebook that they've reached an agreement with Global Manufacturing to produce their balls for multiple years.

Global Manufacturing is something from a deal made between Global and Storm. 

I can't find anything on the Storm/Global deal though
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: thirtyclean on February 19, 2014, 10:41:26 AM
Not a rumor anymore !

http://stormbowling.com/news/2014/02/4388
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: billdozer on February 19, 2014, 11:00:40 AM
Doom, I saw the network in action...IT IS GOOD!
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Impending Doom on February 19, 2014, 11:03:58 AM
Bill, I know! I still need to put holes in mine argh!#$@!
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: banjoec on February 23, 2014, 06:44:52 AM
Bigger question. Will 900 Global be product registered with the PBA?