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toomanytenpins

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secret agent ooo
« on: August 24, 2007, 04:11:58 PM »
this ball sucks. and i dont care who doesnt like that i am saying it. dont waste your money or your time unless u play it as straight as norm dukeon med to light short oil dont expect any flash from this one. I took it to 1000 and then polished it and the only thing i can use it on is 3rd shift shots. Unless you are looking for a dry lane ball i wouldnt reccomend this thing at all.
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Re: secret agent ooo
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2007, 03:13:23 PM »
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balls are like opinions.mine isnt going to make everyone happy. I happen to have three rotos,epic,odyssey,and the battle and the secret agent isnt even close to anyone of them. The ball maybe doesnt suck,just sucks off my hand,btw its for sale 80 bucks single drill.
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230-n-up-or-bust

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Re: secret agent ooo
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2007, 02:42:43 PM »
I bowled on my first THS(second shift/broken down, albeit) last night and the ball performed great.  Over 17 out to 5 with great results(235-237-259).  Great hitting power with exceptional carry.
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CHawk15

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Re: secret agent ooo
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2007, 02:48:00 PM »
toomanytenpins:  

How did you drill this ball ??  I see alot of speculation on the boards, but I'm curious as to how you drilled it ?   If you don't feel comfortable responding to the thread, send me a PM.

toomanytenpins

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Re: secret agent ooo
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2007, 11:11:19 PM »
i have about 10 games on it. I have notice nicks in mine already too. I was kind of wondering why so many posters got on me about the drill and how they know how it was drilled ,must have been from a previous post. Its drilled with the pin just right and down from my ring with the cg kicked slightly to the right. same drill i have on my epic and my epic is a beast. My epic is a good 10 boards stronger than this ball even with this ball at 1000 grit.
   Someone just posted how great this ball was on a second shift typical house shot,doesnt that prove what i just said.Look at storms reaction chart which shows this ball and the passion the passion on their chart is 7 boards left of the secret. Ok it doesnt suck its just not what i thought it was going to be. Nowhere near med to heavy with storms flip which is what i was looking for. It was an experiment gone bad, ball league ball, no sweat off my nose .If you pros want it fine, if not fine, good luck and good bowling.
   I dont need the ball enough to invest the effort to see if it might work after 20 games or 30 games i dont want to be a ,"sub 200 bowler all season ",if thats the mark the justifies a persons opinion .Forgive me when i avg. 200 then i might offer an opinion.
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toomanytenpins

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Re: secret agent ooo
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2007, 11:16:46 PM »
did any of u watch the shootout.norm duke and pete weber were both using this ball.Whos game did it match uop with,Norms,the straighter bowler.Pete never found a line with this ball,not even trying to say i am on their level jkust giving an example .Any ball is only as good as the person using it,"in my hands this ball is less than desireable and so is my game". On drier conditions its no better than anything else i already have,i.e solution or machine
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CHawk15

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Re: secret agent ooo
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2007, 12:24:18 AM »
Sounds to me like particle balls in general don't match up to your game very well.  I remember you talking about how you hated the Epic Battle as well.  This ball is a pearl/solid/particle hybrid if memory serves me right.  You'd probably like the Special Agent better.  I think that they burn up too soon for you, which can be hard to see especially if it starts hooking off of your toe.

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Re: secret agent ooo
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2007, 07:18:17 AM »
I have to say I have seen a couple people use this ball and I saw it tearing up a shark pattern and most recently a house shot playing a bigger hook.

toomanytenpins

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Re: secret agent ooo
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2007, 07:14:41 PM »
maybe i lack the speed and revs for particle balls. U r right i have never really had any luck with them . I had my latest battle drilled weaker and its a much better match for me,having said that i used the secret and my battle on the same pair when i first got the secret and i was pretty impressed with the secret. the battle was ans is a stronger ball ,but the secret looked like i would at least be able to play it . the very next night in leagues they put down a little more oil and the ball wouldnt move,and unless its on the drier side of medium it to this date doesnt move. no more particles for me i promise
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toomanytenpins

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Re: secret agent ooo
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2007, 05:37:34 PM »
ok i have had just about enough of this berating from you guys. I am no pro but i am not the house hack either.I know where to put the ball and the necessary adjustments to get the desired results. I dont bowl 140 every night out. Just because a person makes a comment that you all dont agree woth doesnt make him/ her inferior to you.I practice and i kow where my game is and where i want it to be.I didnt get this ball to better my avg. I got it basically because the choices were limited in the ball league i bowled in. This isnt the first ball i have used and i do have other equipment for comparison ,which is from what i make my judgment on. I really dont appreciate the way some of you attack people because of their opinion.You are ticked off.You dont have to read the post.And you definitely dont have to like it,but it was not in any way a personal attack on any one person or any persons views or abilities.some of you people really need to learn how to just sat nothing when nothing is all you are saying anyway.Sorry you are so ticked off.
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toomanytenpins

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Re: secret agent ooo
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2007, 05:39:52 PM »
and what does spare shooting have to do with a persons opinion of a ball.
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