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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: Metal_rules on September 24, 2016, 11:13:38 AM
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I have left my S/L cover in the oob condition. I need to know what I can do to smooth out the back end, just a bit. In my leagues I have been leaving to many splits with it. I am thinking if I can tone down the snap, just a bit, I should be ok.
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I have left my S/L cover in the oob condition. I need to know what I can do to smooth out the back end, just a bit. In my leagues I have been leaving to many splits with it. I am thinking if I can tone down the snap, just a bit, I should be ok.
Bought a SNAPLock and doesn't want the SNAP..just messing had to do it. I would think lightly hit it with 4K pad would help.
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I like it -- but just want to tone it down - some -- OR if we had a little more oil!
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Definitely try a light 4k
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I broke the box surface with a 2000 pad and then a 4000 pad, very controllable and not over/under.
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I broke the box surface with a 2000 pad and then a 4000 pad, very controllable and not over/under.
I think I will give this adjustment a try.
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I broke the box surface with a 2000 pad and then a 4000 pad, very controllable and not over/under.
I think I will give this adjustment a try.
I will likely use it at 2000 on something like the patterns put out at nationals, but for the THS that 2000 to 4000 really helped it. It's still angular but it's knocked off some of the over/under the shiny box surface may lead to.
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I broke the box surface with a 2000 pad and then a 4000 pad, very controllable and not over/under.
I think I will give this adjustment a try.
I will likely use it at 2000 on something like the patterns put out at nationals, but for the THS that 2000 to 4000 really helped it. It's still angular but it's knocked off some of the over/under the shiny box surface may lead to.
This is done. Will see how it works for me today.
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I broke the box surface with a 2000 pad and then a 4000 pad, very controllable and not over/under.
I think I will give this adjustment a try.
I will likely use it at 2000 on something like the patterns put out at nationals, but for the THS that 2000 to 4000 really helped it. It's still angular but it's knocked off some of the over/under the shiny box surface may lead to.
This is done. Will see how it works for me today.
Let us know what reaction you get and if it helps!
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Let me guess. The Snap Lock comes out of the factory at 1500 polished.
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Let me guess. The Snap Lock comes out of the factory at 1500 polished.
Yessir
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1500 polished is the worst finish EVER for over under. Always change a 1500 polished ball to another surface. I abhor it.
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I get a much better reaction with this application. It still moves but doesn't over react like I was getting. I will be able to use the ball now longer and I am sure better results! Thanks "good times"
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I get a much better reaction with this application. It still moves but doesn't over react like I was getting. I will be able to use the ball now longer and I am sure better results! Thanks "good times"
No problem. I love Storm/Roto products but I always do adjust the surface before I even throw it once to what I anticipate using it at so that I can repeat/adjust that when it's due to be refreshed. Like Doom noted with his game, I've never matched up to the factory 1500 polished finish.
I will say though, with the 4000 surface, you really have to stay on top of it every 6 or so games, so my spinner is put to good use.
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1500 polished is the worst finish EVER for over under. Always change a 1500 polished ball to another surface. I abhor it.
The main problem is Storm's version (or definition, if you will) of "1500 grit polished" becomes, in practice "4000 grit + polish".
Near as I can tell, sanding a ball to 1500 grit and then applying a coat of polish makes for a great surface, in general, for many balls. "1500 grit + polish" usually results in the bottoms of the 'peaks and valleys' to be 1500 grit and the polish causes the peaks to be around 4500 - 5000 grit.
On the other hand, Storm's stock "1500 grit polished" causes both peaks and valleys to be in the 4000 - 5500 grit range.
This is sort of like the difference between sanding a ball with 500/1000/2000/4000 grit vs. sanding it with 500/4000 grit.
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Oh, yeah. Storms process is horrible for me. Any time I'm like "Yeah, I'll use oob finish" on a Utah poured Global ball, I forget to punch myaelf and then put myself on a timeout.
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Oh, yeah. Storms process is horrible for me. Any time I'm like "Yeah, I'll use oob finish" on a Utah poured Global ball, I forget to punch myaelf and then put myself on a timeout.
I couldn't agree more. Of the many factory shinrd Storm balls I've thrown, I hated all at box except one and even that one I changed shorty after. Loved them all after taking it to my own surface.
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I wonder why Storm allows this process if there are always issues with the factory oob cover. ???
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I've left mine at OOB, but this makes me wonder if I should tinker with it. I really like it's motion, but maybe I'm missing out on a better reaction with a surface change.
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Here's another observation I've made too that I hadn't really thought of until now. When I got my Hectic I tried it at the 1500 polish and it was the same as with the Snap Lock (maybe moreso with the higher RG in the Hectic) so I hit it with a 2000 + 4000 and used Storms X-Tra shine polish and it's much more consistent off the spot. It is still a very shiny surface but there is a difference. Perhaps it's a match up thing......
What I'm saying is the reduction of the over/under look I get from the factory finish, is reduced in my 4000 surfaces as well as polished surfaces.
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I left my SnapLock OOB but I can't really use it because my house doesn't put down enough oil, so it sits in the bag or left at home. :-[
I think I'll try a 4000/no polish when I go practice at another house.
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I've left mine at OOB, but this makes me wonder if I should tinker with it. I really like it's motion, but maybe I'm missing out on a better reaction with a surface change.
If you like the reaction that you're getting, and you're scoring with it, I'd leave well enough alone. Yes, maybe you'll find something that you didn't see before, but you may end up with a result you don't like. Granted, it should be easy enough to adjust it back, but it doesn't always work out like that. I'm all for tinkering with coverstocks, but I generally only do so when I'm not getting what I want out of a ball. Still, that's just me.
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All these cover adjustments are over rated. You all need to learn how to bowl, period!
I learned a lot from 2handedpinatubo, he's a guru at 5 pin pick ups.
Anyway, of all the storm balls I've owned since 2004/5, only one ball at 1500 oob that I did not change - even the one I got from charlest, was the Hyroad. I've owned 2 older hyroads and they were fine at OOB. But the rest was a different story. (enjoying the No Rules after cover change.)
I've seen the Hectic at OOB and this bowler was getting O/u, which made me hesitate to get this ball last year.
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All these cover adjustments are over rated. You all need to learn how to bowl, period!
I learned a lot from 2handedpinatubo, he's a guru at 5 pin pick ups.
At first, I thought you were serious. I was going to say that you were crazy! lol Anyhow, I got to the point where I was adjusting most balls from OOB surface, especially the ones that came polished. I HATED my IQ Tour Pearl at box finish, yet it became one of the best balls I've ever thrown once I knocked it down to a matte 2000.
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For everyone who does not care for Storms 1500 polish, what do you adjust it to? I got a Snap lock drilled last night and always change the 1500 polish to something else. Just wanted some input. Thanks in advance.
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For everyone who does not care for Storms 1500 polish, what do you adjust it to? I got a Snap lock drilled last night and always change the 1500 polish to something else. Just wanted some input. Thanks in advance.
the first thing I usually try is 4000.