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axeweldr

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Storm Phaze Issues
« on: February 22, 2016, 08:51:57 PM »
For all my bowling friends out there, I don't state my opinion on many bowling balls, but this one I have to. It bothers me that I don't get many answers to why this ball is such a let down. With that being said, the new Storm Phaze is by far one of the worst balls I have thrown in a long, long time. Could it be the layout, could it be the bowler, what could it be? Well the layout which is pin over the bridge, is actually a decent layout for me, most balls work when you throw this layout a ball. Even had a weight hole punched in it to help it start up sooner. So are you marketing a high priced dry lane ball? If you are maybe you shouldn't advertise how "tacky" it is. That can mislead people into thinking that it might do something called "hook", am I right? It might just be me, but I really think that Storm missed the mark with the advertisement of this ball. Do yourself a favor, if you want to try it, run far away from it.
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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2016, 09:04:00 PM »
be more specific?  what issues are you having?

I have only seen one guy throw a phase in my sport league and he is kicking ass with it.  I he averaged over 210 with it on the pattern we just wrapped up bowling on.  my observation for this guy was that it reacted just as the marketing said it would.

but that was just one guy.

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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 09:05:25 PM »
should add, I am truly interested in the details in how you came by this opinion as I am considering a phase. 

but its likely my equipment budget is empty for the rest of this year; its amazingly expensive to plug and redrill 7 balls.

axeweldr

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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2016, 09:14:41 PM »
I have seen several Phazes thrown, they seem very hit or miss.  The majority of feedback isn't good.  I've seen a guy with a rev rate of 550 throw this ball, and it literally goes 60ft.  Aggressive drilling, several surface changes much like my own experience, doesn't seem to matter.  There is also a bowler in our area that has multiple titles, honor scores out of his butt, he couldn't make this ball work either.  He makes every ball look pretty darn good. Be it a bad batch or something,  which Storm tells me there isn't a bad batch.  It's hit or miss and if i was on limited funds, id look else where.  This of course is my opinion. 
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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2016, 09:17:44 PM »
This is a Down and In house shot killer type of reaction. I would say like an Optimus but 3-5 weaker overall. This is not a flashy "boomerang off the end of the pattern" reaction, even though the shelf appeal of it screams "Skid Flip". I watched a two handed staffer of theirs throw one recently as a step down from the Wrecker/Uproars.

A lot of people are going to be unhappily surprised with this reaction if they make a blind purchase expecting it to be the next Marvel Pearl type big booming reaction.

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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2016, 09:18:36 PM »
I have tried surface change after surface change, tired using it on different surfaces different condition, I see the same thing.  No reaction to little reaction, and carry is just dreadful.  I have also seen guys using it to shoot numbers, hence why i believe there is something wrong with it.   I have thrown a few balls in my day, and can make almost anything look good.... I have met my match.  I give up on it, and almost just want to send it to the factory and be done with it. 
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axeweldr

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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2016, 09:22:01 PM »
When you market a bowling ball as being tacky you expect some grab on the lane.  My optimus hooks rings around the ball, literally.  If your going to market a dry lane ball, don't sell it for 200 bucks, you might make some people unhappy.  Also the video to promote the ball isn't a down and in reaction.....
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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2016, 09:42:53 PM »
Have any videos of you throwing said Ball? Or palming it like a basketball?
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2016, 09:47:55 PM »
I don't really like to make videos, because i hate seeing my arm swing (which is pretty bad)  I grew up in the days of urethane where you had to really torque on a ball.  My ball was never that tacky, and besides that i can't palm it.    I've been on this site for a long long time, since the start really, was also one of those gold members.  lol  I won't flame a company or ball unless I've got good reason too.
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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2016, 09:57:36 PM »
The Phaze is one of those balls I want to throw just because people seem so mixed on it. I know our main pso got one but I haven't been able to ask him if he likes his

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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2016, 08:35:52 AM »
I've only seen one of these in action so far. On wood lanes in house with back ends that really move. The bowler is an average speed lower revs guy but he's accurate. The first set I seen him throw with it was maybe one of the worst looking balls I've ever seen. The ball constantly would hook roll out and hit the pins leaving something.

The next week it looked much better making a move to the pocket and carrying really well. I went over and asked him what the difference was and his response was the ball is very temperamental to friction. Get it to the spot early it hooks out doesn't over react but doesn't carry, Get it to the spot on time ball hits like a Mack truck, don't find the friction it's a dart. Even in a house with big back ends the Phaze doesn't hook a lot.   

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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2016, 08:42:57 AM »
I've had my Phaze for a little over two weeks now and I'm very happy with it. I'm averaging over 230 with it and yes it's on a THS, but it hits hard and haven't had any issues with carry so far. I think the ball is what it's advertised...a medium oil ball. Storm may have over marketed it and people think it's going to be a hook monster, but it's not an oiler. It does turn left when it finds the friction for me and I've never had it go 60 ft straight. It could be that you're playing it on the wrong pattern. I've had my Haywire look like a dud on certain patterns, but that's because it was burnt up before it got to the pins. I have heard from numerous people to knock the shine off of the Phaze and it will really come to life.

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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2016, 09:46:12 AM »
All the bad reviews on this ball make me want to get one because i usually do well with balls that no one else likes. If anyone has a 16lb that wants to get rid of, pm me please.

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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2016, 10:55:35 AM »
All the bad reviews on this ball make me want to get one because i usually do well with balls that no one else likes.

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Re: Storm Phaze Issues
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2016, 11:14:09 AM »
All the bad reviews on this ball make me want to get one because i usually do well with balls that no one else likes.

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