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Jamesfarm

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Storm Phaze
« on: February 25, 2016, 06:23:45 AM »
I have the Phaze and was wondering if anyone's was not tacky like the advertising said. The surface on mine is very slick, no way anyone is palming this one!

 

spmcgivern

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2016, 01:48:07 PM »
Any organizations product is worth what consumers are willing to pay for it. Consumers vote with their wallet whether it's a bowling ball or the any other product/service so stop saying bowlers are cheap, everyone wants value for their investment. If the product/service isn't good, the price will be reduced and organizations that no longer provide value in the eyes of the consumer go out of business.
Of course, but the ink hasn't even dried on the Phaze price tags.  What you detail will take time.  We will have to see if this one release will mean Storm is finished.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2016, 01:52:47 PM »
Any organizations product is worth what consumers are willing to pay for it. Consumers vote with their wallet whether it's a bowling ball or the any other product/service so stop saying bowlers are cheap, everyone wants value for their investment. If the product/service isn't good, the price will be reduced and organizations that no longer provide value in the eyes of the consumer go out of business.
Of course, but the ink hasn't even dried on the Phaze price tags.  What you detail will take time.  We will have to see if this one release will mean Storm is finished.
The Optimus and Optimus Solid were not hits and Storm is still in business. So I don't think Storm is going anywhere if the Phaze doesn't meet expectations for some.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2016, 02:00:21 PM »
You're right.  And sometimes I think people use the word "hype" and try to make it mean "big hook".  Instead, we should be using the term "advertising".  The Phaze was advertised as something different than what people are expecting. 

If the IQ Tour were perceived as having the same hype as the Phaze, people would be pissed by the fact it doesn't hook enough or handle enough oil.  But in reality, the ball fits it advertising perfectly.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2016, 02:18:24 PM »
You're right.  And sometimes I think people use the word "hype" and try to make it mean "big hook".  Instead, we should be using the term "advertising".  The Phaze was advertised as something different than what people are expecting. 

If the IQ Tour were perceived as having the same hype as the Phaze, people would be pissed by the fact it doesn't hook enough or handle enough oil.  But in reality, the ball fits it advertising perfectly.

I couldn't agree more. This ball wasn't advertised as the biggest hooking ball ever. It's for medium conditions and that's what most THS conditions are. I think it should be a THS killer and I'm enjoying it a lot.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2016, 02:24:28 PM »
My father in law is having trouble with his. When his hits the pocket though, it hits like a truck! It's so loud and hard. Pins just fly. But he doesn't have any miss room with it. It looks like he's bowling on a sport shot. It's super controllable, but he's having trouble figuring it out. He said it's the longest he's had to try and figure a ball out.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2016, 02:58:19 PM »
I for one want to try the Phaze, but waiting to get one used since everyone is on the fence about it. 16lb anyone?

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2016, 03:28:10 PM »
Could someone show me all of this hype in regards to hook? I've only seen where to cover is tacky. But that doesn't equate to hook and Storm does not claim that it does. Storm claims that the ball produces "happy strikes." ;D

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2016, 06:00:07 PM »
After much fighting with this ball, I have finally figured out how to get it tacky, for the people in the same situation that mine was in.  I finally thought to kinda treat it like a brunswick ball since that the reaction some people are claiming it to have.  I hit the ball on my spinner with a 500 pad, then took a dirty polish towel, and just got it wet, and polished.  Ball now has the tackiness that many of the others had.  So if your dealing with the slick feel try this.  I hope it helps some people out there. 
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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2016, 11:17:27 AM »
I drilled my phase yesterday. It was tacky out of the box. The thing I did notice it is not a highly shined ball. Throwing down the lanes it is very rolly(if there is such a word) and a continuous curve. What's impresses me the most is the fact it revs through the whole lane. A different motion from storm and a motion I like.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2016, 11:21:29 AM »
Mine was super shiny out of the box..... Seems consistency is an issue....
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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2016, 07:48:03 PM »
After much fighting with this ball, I have finally figured out how to get it tacky, for the people in the same situation that mine was in.  I finally thought to kinda treat it like a brunswick ball since that the reaction some people are claiming it to have.  I hit the ball on my spinner with a 500 pad, then took a dirty polish towel, and just got it wet, and polished.  Ball now has the tackiness that many of the others had.  So if your dealing with the slick feel try this.  I hope it helps some people out there. 

The reaction isn't typical Storm but its not as bad as a Brunswick reaction. Lets not get carried away, lol.
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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2016, 08:21:46 PM »
Track clean n tacky works great if still made under powerhouse
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2016, 10:44:52 PM »
You would figure tacky = friction. I talked to a staffer that suggested you drill this with a 1/2" stronger pin than you would normally and adding a low hole to get the ball to pop a little more off of the spot. Makes sense. He also said this ball is designed to be able to be used an entire block start to finish. Sounds legit if you can line up with this on the fresh.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2016, 10:45:12 PM »
You would figure tacky = friction. I talked to a staffer that suggested you drill this with a 1/2" stronger pin than you would normally and adding a low hole to get the ball to pop a little more off of the spot. Makes sense. He also said this ball is designed to be able to be used an entire block start to finish. Sounds legit if you can line up with this on the fresh.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2016, 08:24:57 AM »
I guess nobody can show me where Storm claims that this ball is a hook monster? All I've found is tacky surface and a new motion, per Storms website.