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Storm Phaze
« on: February 25, 2016, 06:23:45 AM »
I have the Phaze and was wondering if anyone's was not tacky like the advertising said. The surface on mine is very slick, no way anyone is palming this one!

 

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2016, 07:47:38 AM »
I didnt know a 683 and 663 were such horrible series.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2016, 09:03:00 AM »
Idk about all of you but I hope mine doesn't hook! I'd love to the play the track, anytime I can I kill it! 8)
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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2016, 09:14:33 AM »
I guess we live in an age that averaging 224 is not good enough. I get that we spend money on new equipment but once someone starts averaging 210 plus, improvement is seen in small increments, not large steps. If all I had to do to bowl over average when I averaged 230 was buy a new ball, I would have had a new ball every set. By the time I jump in brackets and the side action, the new ball would have been paid for.

Just doesn't work like that.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2016, 10:08:49 AM »
Not saying I was unhappy with the series I threw in the last week, what i was unhappy with was the touchiness of the ball at least using the factory finish. I'm going to try taking the polish off and move the ball to a different grit level. Just felt like the ball died on me in the middle of the first game, especially when i was hitting pocket in practice and the first game up to like the 5th frame. After that the ball turned into a spare ball almost, and because the ball was new i was too stubborn to switch balls that night.


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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2016, 10:54:03 AM »
Sometimes covers need broke in and the surface of the ball from the factory is not what matches up for you or me. I remember Phil C's Soaker covers on Dynothane stuff from a decade ago. Phil would tell you that the ball needed a few games to get broke in, like a dozen or more.


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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2016, 11:38:36 AM »
I have an Unreal amd it took me 6+ games to break in. I hated it when i first got it then go 299/760 and then go 300/750. Now its as consistent as can be but even still, if im not consitent in my approach and release, its not going to score.

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2016, 02:04:46 PM »
I think I watched every phaze video...

All things aside...take all factors out. 

Shorter paps and CGS further towards their pap look to appear to skid hook roll really well. 

Phazes with holes seem to look good too, vs. No hole.

The further the pin is away it, seems to just skid and miss the breakpoint.

I read somewhere on here that reps said to move the pin towards the pap an inch or so, and add a hole.

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That being said...

I think it's cool, every pin up ball reacts the same anymore...

It's might be very advantageous to have a ball that can really skid, or one that can really roll...maybe the whole intent is to make drilling more important? Or it accidentally is being the case
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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2016, 02:52:14 PM »
I think Tony Ruocco's rolled rather well and his was 6 inches from his PAP if I read that correctly.
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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2016, 04:26:11 PM »
That video like all of the others from Bowlingball.com are on a mega wall.  So it's hard to have a ball not look good.  Though there have been some that have.
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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2016, 04:29:57 PM »
just buy a fight. shot 757 with it out of box. on old wood lanes

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2016, 10:23:26 PM »
This is the layout I'm going with...


https://youtu.be/7fROPIG_j5U

By far best rolling one on YouTube...ofcourse in my opinion 8)
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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2016, 10:43:18 PM »
This is the layout I'm going with...


https://youtu.be/7fROPIG_j5U

By far best rolling one on YouTube...ofcourse in my opinion 8)

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2016, 11:10:38 PM »
This is the layout I'm going with...


https://youtu.be/7fROPIG_j5U

By far best rolling one on YouTube...ofcourse in my opinion 8)

Stacked Leverage? People still use that? Gross.

I know u hate that but I love it.  I got a lot of honor scores with similar layouts..

Also...95% if the phazes are pin up, cg slightly kicked...and everyone says the ball blows...

Klempkens was pin down under the bridge and his rolls well, apparently... Could do that too. 

But dang this video is good, skid hook roll...doesn't ever really miss the spot.  Every other video looks terrible. Even bowlerdeals is 2 arrows right ha-ha..
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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2016, 07:19:33 PM »
Well. I averaged 232 last summer with the Optimus.  To me this ball is more continuous than angular and works best for straighter players.  It's not super strong or very angular but is great for playing the track area.  I would say the Phaze is similar but stronger and more rolly.  The Phaze allows me to play straighter in heavy oil.  I have mine drilled pin down with a little surface.  It rolls early and keeps moving through the pins.  Both these balls work great when the condition warrants using them.  I think most bowlers like a reaction similar to the Sky Rocket which is very angular.  To me the Sky Rocket is too over / under for my liking.  If I miss a little into the dry the ball takes off. 

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Re: Storm Phaze
« Reply #60 on: March 19, 2016, 10:35:50 AM »
Yeah I'd ignore anything you see from that crew, Ruocco thumbs the piss out of everything so he could get a 6 inch pin White Dot to hook, that kind of sometimes two handed kid either flags it out to the 3 board or never gets it right of 15, and everything Curlie throws looks the same. 

IF you want to make the Phaze look "pretty" on a house shot, you need to go stronger across the board.  It's a very strong ball to begin with, it's just not a strong ball on the backend.  Trying to force backend out of the ball is not a good idea, because it's just not that kind of ball, HOWEVER, drop 10-15 degrees off both your initial and final angles, and drop about half an inch off the pin, and add a P3 hole.  So if a favorite layout for you is 65x5x40, go 50x4.5x30. 

In my opinion however, you buy different balls to do different things, yet somehow everyone wants every ball they buy to work on their league shot.  My Phaze got used for my video and is sitting on a rack in the back waiting for Greater Ozarks, Nationals, and my sport league this summer because it is going to be an absolute beast on a sport pattern.  Hook but not flip?  Sign me up.  500 or 1k grit straight up 3/4/5 at Nationals?  I can hardly wait.  League shot though?  Nah, Loco Solid and Hectic have that covered.  The Phaze is a house shot killer for guys with a lot of hand or guys with virtually no hand.  Guys with hand can rip on it without it turning sideways on the back, and the guys without hand can play a lot closer to the friction on the outside without the over/under of more angular balls.  Tweeners?  Absolute nightmare.  Tweeners and crankers on sport patterns?  Best ball ever.  Low rev rate?  Buy an Alpha. 

That video like all of the others from Bowlingball.com are on a mega wall.  So it's hard to have a ball not look good.  Though there have been some that have.
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