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Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« on: March 11, 2022, 04:53:22 PM »
No word why yet. More to come.

 

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2022, 08:54:10 PM »
Nope. From a Storm staffer concerning the specific issue of the ball not spinning the same #s.

As for the original notification- distributor sent an email alerting of the issue.

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2022, 08:58:08 PM »
Unless he heard it from you no he didn’t

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2022, 10:31:06 AM »
I’m seeing posted elsewhere. Mostly based upon information from the distributors. They’re pulling stock and no longer shipping them. No one knows the exact reason why. Some speculating it’s spin numbers, some it’s cover being too soft.

But it seems to be a certainty, there’s a concern about the ball and a halt to sales by distributors.

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2022, 11:35:42 AM »
Storm has now acknowledged that the ball is under review by the USBC. Pulled from shelves but still legal for competitions at this time.

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2022, 01:01:33 PM »

So unless the current Spectre's are different than the ones USBC already approved this is another glaring weakness in our "governing body". 

If they are exactly the same then this debacle is an obvious waste of time, and USBC should be embarrassed at their inept "approval process".  I guess time will tell, but that ball has been used by tons of bowlers here in Utah with nice results. 

As I type this distributors cannot sell them and pro shops are asked not to sell or drill any until this is resolved.  What a mess!


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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2022, 01:04:32 PM »

So unless the current Spectre's are different than the ones USBC already approved this is another glaring weakness in our "governing body". 

If they are exactly the same then this debacle is an obvious waste of time, and USBC should be embarrassed at their inept "approval process".  I guess time will tell, but that ball has been used by tons of bowlers here in Utah with nice results. 

As I type this distributors cannot sell them and pro shops are asked not to sell or drill any until this is resolved.  What a mess!




I'm definitely curious to know the reason.

In my eyes it has seemed like the Spectre has outperformed it's on paper specs

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2022, 01:10:42 PM »

Approval should mean approval, assuming that something hasn't changed since original "approval".

Today it's Storm, tomorrow it could be any other manufacturer.  At what point does USBC need to be held accountable for their own actions?


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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2022, 01:29:01 PM »
Question is do I snag one up?

Will they be worth $$$
Will storm offer a trade in on a special edition ball?
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2022, 02:56:27 PM »

Approval should mean approval, assuming that something hasn't changed since original "approval".

Today it's Storm, tomorrow it could be any other manufacturer.  At what point does USBC need to be held accountable for their own actions?

It seems like there was an error in production. Something changed during production that maybe took the ball out of spec. Either an error in cover formulation or they put in a wrong core. Those details haven’t come out yet. This literally came to light yesterday so I’m sure Storm is working with the USBC to verify what’s wrong and see how widespread the issue is. If there is one.

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2022, 03:34:21 PM »
Storm has a blurb up on their Facebook page.

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We were informed late Friday by the United States Bowling Congress that the Storm Spectre is under further review. We have reached out to the USBC for additional information. At this time, this ball is not available for sale in pro shops but is still legal for competition. As information becomes more available, we will release further statements.

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2022, 09:19:52 AM »
New update from USBC on Facebook today

Spectre has been removed from the USBC approval list because too many tested too soft.


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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2022, 10:43:02 AM »
Which now begs this question

Why did the original balls provided to the USBC for approval pass? Did they pass hardness inspection?

If yes, then that to me says Storm changed something after approval. How could the balls pass USBC approval and yet now, 98.6% would not pass inspection for hardness? There is no way every ball originally passed when there is now a 98.6 rate of failure.

If the USBC did not appropriately check for hardness during the approval process, then this is on the USBC. USBC should have said hey wait, the ball is outside of hardness spec. I would imagine Storm would stop and say yep, it is, let's stop production and make a change. Instead, now Storm has produced boatloads and now will probably have to replace all the sold ones. What a nightmare if this is the scenario that occurred.

I also wonder if USBC wasn't checking for hardness (although they should have been) until such a gripe was made about the Purple and because of that gripe, someone else decided to spill the beans on this ball as a "Gotcha too" moment.

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2022, 10:56:18 AM »
Just like the original Motiv Jackal and Jackal Carnage. The USBC approved the balls and later banned them after the differential was found out to be above .060. Motiv had to exchange a lot of bowling balls and lost money because it.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2022, 11:26:48 AM »
So....for another update....

The same "birdie" that sent me the email about the Spectre from my distributor just said the USBC is not done with Utah yet.....

I don't know if that means more balls being revoked is in our future.......I guess we shall see.