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alwood85

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I heard a rumor that Storm is going to stop distributing their products to online discount retailers such as Bowling.com, Bowlingball.com, and will only distribute to authorized Storm Pro Shops because the online retailers sell them too cheap.  I hope this in indeed just a bad rumor.  Bowling.com has the Storm Anarchy for $139.99, and my local Pro Shop sells it for $219.99. I am sorry, but that is major difference in price. Of course, I purchased from bowling.com


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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 09:28:36 AM »

I am quite surprised!!

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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2011, 09:34:00 AM »
I think they will still sell to them but there is a new policy starting Feb 1st where the online shops can't sell a ball below a set price.


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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2011, 09:40:24 AM »
That would mean I will have to pay over $200 for the Nano on Feb 1st. That is not good for bowlers like myself.


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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2011, 10:48:50 AM »
On buddies pro shop they have Nano listed for $159.95
 
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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2011, 12:21:44 PM »
Alwood85,

 

 It is a policy referred to as "floor pricing". All that really means is that a manufacturer is, in conjunction with an MSRP (manufacturers suggested retail price), setting the lower limit that their products can be sold at. Part of this policy seems to be that, if someone is caught selling BELOW that level, that entity would lose the right to purchase and sell the merchandise in question, which is STORM bowling equipment.

 

 While I totally understand the policy, I disagree with it strongly. If someone can buy in large enough quantities to get drastic price breaks, which they then pass along to the consumer, I think they should be able to do so, as long as they paid STORM what they asked for the products in the first place.

 

 Many here think it is an attempt to bolster the flailing proshop industry by forcing the consumer back into the shop for their purchases instead of the online market by giving the "little guy" justification in charging higher prices and eliminating the low priced competition. I don't agree though. I believe that, in the end, it is a marketing ploy by the manufacturers to inflate the value of their merchandise artificially.


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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2011, 12:34:40 PM »
What will you do when all the companies go this route?


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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2011, 12:41:14 PM »
Jugg hit it on the button!
 
Juggernaut wrote on 1/21/2011 1:21 PM:
Alwood85,

 

 It is a policy referred to as "floor pricing". All that really means is that a manufacturer is, in conjunction with an MSRP (manufacturers suggested retail price), setting the lower limit that their products can be sold at. Part of this policy seems to be that, if someone is caught selling BELOW that level, that entity would lose the right to purchase and sell the merchandise in question, which is STORM bowling equipment.

 

 While I totally understand the policy, I disagree with it strongly. If someone can buy in large enough quantities to get drastic price breaks, which they then pass along to the consumer, I think they should be able to do so, as long as they paid STORM what they asked for the products in the first place.

 

 Many here think it is an attempt to bolster the flailing proshop industry by forcing the consumer back into the shop for their purchases instead of the online market by giving the "little guy" justification in charging higher prices and eliminating the low priced competition. I don't agree though. I believe that, in the end, it is a marketing ploy by the manufacturers to inflate the value of their merchandise artificially.


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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2011, 12:41:50 PM »

 well you can go buy brunswick they are made in mexico, motiv i know does not need to do this becasue most of their prices are right with the internet. 
DrTitleist wrote on 1/21/2011 1:32 PM:I sure hope not because if they do, I will stop buying Storm just like I stopped buying anything from Ebonite International..






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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2011, 02:51:38 PM »

 This is hitting on the head! People got spoiled by the internet and people that aren't trying to make a living being okay with making 5$ a ball.



Xcessive_Evil wrote on 1/21/2011 1:34 PM:
What will you do when all the companies go this route?


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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2011, 03:38:50 PM »
What everyone needs to do is wait 6 months until the balls are on closeout then buy them.



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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2011, 04:09:23 PM »
[This is hitting on the head! People got spoiled by the internet and people that aren't trying to make a living being okay with making 5$ a ball.]
 

 Yes, perhaps we did get "spoiled", but it happened. And, as much as you (and others) hate to hear it, perhaps the day of the full time professional proshop has already come and gone. I really don't like it either, but it is looking more and more like this every day.

 

 Granted, there are still pockets where a limited number of shops could still be supported, but those areas are often FLOODED with far too many people trying to share a market that won't support ALL of them.

 

 The internet is here folks, and it is here to stay. It has FOREVER changed the way people shop, recreate, and interact.

 

 I don't know if its a good thing or a bad thing, but it is a fact. At this point, I don't know if what the manufacturers are doing is going to have a positive effect or not. I highly doubt it.

 

 I've said it before, and I'll say it again, there are far too many people (manufacturers, distributors, salesmen, and proshops) trying to make a full time living off of a part time industry and doing it on the backs of the consumer by over-inflating prices, then trying to force those prices down our throats.

 

 I understand peoples desire to make a living doing what they want/chose. I would love to be in the proshop business also. Sadly, this isn't always the case and, if you're in the proshop industry, you are in an artificial market that has been created by lies from the manufacturers who were/are interested in lining nobodies pockets but their own, and have done so by flooding the artificial market they created with merchandise that they discontinue quickly so that they can release the NEXT batch, leaving you to flounder in the morass they created for you.


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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2011, 09:30:21 PM »
Amen....
 
Juggernaut wrote on 1/21/2011 5:09 PM:
[This is hitting on the head! People got spoiled by the internet and people that aren't trying to make a living being okay with making 5$ a ball.>
 

 Yes, perhaps we did get "spoiled", but it happened. And, as much as you (and others) hate to hear it, perhaps the day of the full time professional proshop has already come and gone. I really don't like it either, but it is looking more and more like this every day.

 

 Granted, there are still pockets where a limited number of shops could still be supported, but those areas are often FLOODED with far too many people trying to share a market that won't support ALL of them.

 

 The internet is here folks, and it is here to stay. It has FOREVER changed the way people shop, recreate, and interact.

 

 I don't know if its a good thing or a bad thing, but it is a fact. At this point, I don't know if what the manufacturers are doing is going to have a positive effect or not. I highly doubt it.

 

 I've said it before, and I'll say it again, there are far too many people (manufacturers, distributors, salesmen, and proshops) trying to make a full time living off of a part time industry and doing it on the backs of the consumer by over-inflating prices, then trying to force those prices down our throats.

 

 I understand peoples desire to make a living doing what they want/chose. I would love to be in the proshop business also. Sadly, this isn't always the case and, if you're in the proshop industry, you are in an artificial market that has been created by lies from the manufacturers who were/are interested in lining nobodies pockets but their own, and have done so by flooding the artificial market they created with merchandise that they discontinue quickly so that they can release the NEXT batch, leaving you to flounder in the morass they created for you.


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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2011, 09:45:33 PM »
good for storm for having some balls to do the right thing. I dont mind paying a few extra bucks if I think the pro shop i visit will be around 10 years from now to help me out with my game. You guys with your crying about 20 bucks are redic and obviously penny wise and nickel foolish. You cry about paying to much online, then whine about paying to much to get it drilled, then cry when you suck!! Maybe if you bought a ball recommended by a quality shop, had it drilled by a quality shop, you would improve from knowledge from a quality shop and your 160$ might not be like lighting money on fire! JUST SAYIN!!!


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Re: Storm To Stop Distributing Products To Discount Online Retailers?
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2011, 05:13:11 AM »
   It is about time! When you flea market shoppers buy a ball on line, does that person on the other end <- bowl, >- know your data (rev rate, axis tilt, PAP), & know what type lane surface you bowl on, * spent a couple thousand $ being trained and certified, o spend hours upon hour studying layouts and new terminogy?
   Online distributors have sank the local pro shop. Pretty sad when I can get a ball online cheaper than from my distibutor that I have used for 13 years. But when you buy online and its cracks, have fun! Is is going to cost you on average $20 to send back, then the week or more wait to get replacement ball. Purchase through a pro shop like mine and if cracks, bring back and replacement is givin on spot as long as in stock as all drilling requirements are strictly followed. 13 years of drilling, I have not had my distributor reject one cracked ball.
    Also, do online pro shops give local pro shops perks like giving them a seed ball occasionally to get into a bowlers hand to boost sales? HELL NO! They don't know you from Adam and once they hang up the phone, they could care less about you as they got your money.
   Not trying to cause arguments, just trying to put a Pro Shop owners point of view out there. I would give 30 minutes of my time anytime to someone that purchases through me before I would give it to someone giving money to an online distributor 1000 miles away.

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