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Title: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: riggs on May 27, 2013, 01:31:53 PM

Really liking what I am seeing of the SUPER NATURAL so far. Nice blend of control and just enough oomph. Also my new spare ball, replacing my polyester SOCCER BALL.

http://www.11thframe.com/page/reviews_id_12
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: scotts33 on May 27, 2013, 06:45:07 PM
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Also my new spare ball, replacing my polyester SOCCER BALL.

That says a lot.  I thought Jeff would never stop using that spare Soccer ball.  ;D
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: riggs on May 28, 2013, 07:28:41 AM
LOL.    I'm keeping that SOCCER BALL for the Pete ... and it may reappear in the future for spares if my initial reading of the SUPER NATURAL was wrong.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: Good Times Good Times on May 28, 2013, 07:49:54 AM
Not sure if this makes sense to many (it does to me) but absolute confidence in a spare ball is a must.  I've said time and time again, the plastic (in my case) is the most important ball in my entire bag.  House-to-house and condition-to-condition, it is one thing that remains constant.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: scotts33 on May 28, 2013, 07:54:16 AM
LOL.    I'm keeping that SOCCER BALL for the Pete ... and it may reappear in the future for spares if my initial reading of the SUPER NATURAL was wrong.

Jeff---The SuperNatural has big shoes to fill compared to your spare Soccer ball.  Your fill percentage with the Soccer ball has to be one of the highest around anywhere.  Unlike Seppa's I never miss a 10 pin urethane.  lol
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: Urethane Game on May 28, 2013, 08:26:42 AM
Riggs, would you say the cover is absorbing some oil then?  The reason I don't use Urethane much anymore is because the ball ends up looking like a glazed donut after a game or so.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: riggs on May 28, 2013, 08:29:21 AM
I use a microfiber towel very thoroughly after every shot. It's box shiny so I am not much worried about oil - and have not seen any change in reaction. Might be different if I was using it scuffed up.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: northface28 on May 28, 2013, 09:44:18 AM
Riggs,

Your thoughts on the Lights Out and Freak N Frantic? Would be helpful as you're the only objective staffer that reviews balls on this site.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: riggs on May 28, 2013, 09:49:31 AM
Sorry but I have neither of those. Freak N Frantic basically a 2FAST and that ball was no good for me.  LIGHTS OUT I am hearing so much good about that I think I am going to order one ... but won't get it until I get back from Vegas Senior majors.
Sorry.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: northface28 on May 28, 2013, 10:30:17 AM
No problem. What are you hearing about the Lights Out?
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: riggs on May 28, 2013, 10:34:38 AM
Super clean through front and strong back-end without being skid/flippy.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: avabob on June 04, 2013, 04:09:35 PM
Just a note on the urethane as a spare ball.  I bought the original natural for the same conditions guys are still getting them for.  I discovered quickly that it was a better spare ball than my plastic.  As Riggs say, the polyester is just too squirty on todays oils, but then occasionally you get flip on the back.  Urethane gives me a smooth early move that is not too big, then totally tame on the back end.  My percentage on 3-10, 3-6, and 3-6-10 all went up.  I even like it better on bucket combinations.   
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: riggs on June 09, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
Just a note on the urethane as a spare ball.  I bought the original natural for the same conditions guys are still getting them for.  I discovered quickly that it was a better spare ball than my plastic.  As Riggs say, the polyester is just too squirty on todays oils, but then occasionally you get flip on the back.  Urethane gives me a smooth early move that is not too big, then totally tame on the back end.  My percentage on 3-10, 3-6, and 3-6-10 all went up.  I even like it better on bucket combinations.   

I agree 100 percent with this. My spare shooting this week at the Senior Open was stellar with the SUPER NATURAL. In 48 games, I think I missed 3 or 4 single pins (one came at end of a block when my ring finger was swelling so much I couldn't get it in ball - had to change out grips to bigger ones before next squad) and maybe half a dozen combos, while making several splits and washouts. The non-squirt and smoother back-end move is everything compared to polyester!
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: Rightycomplex on June 09, 2013, 10:09:41 AM
Just a note on the urethane as a spare ball.  I bought the original natural for the same conditions guys are still getting them for.  I discovered quickly that it was a better spare ball than my plastic.  As Riggs say, the polyester is just too squirty on todays oils, but then occasionally you get flip on the back.  Urethane gives me a smooth early move that is not too big, then totally tame on the back end.  My percentage on 3-10, 3-6, and 3-6-10 all went up.  I even like it better on bucket combinations.   
Agree 100 percent with this. My spare shooting this week at the Senior Open was stellar with the SUPER NATURAL. In 48 games, I think I missed 3 or 4 single pins (one came at end of a block when my ring finger was swelling so much I couldn't get it in ball - had to change out grips to bigger ones before next squad) and maybe half a dozen combos, while making several splits and washouts. The non-squirt and smoother back-end move is everything compared to polyester!

Thats good to know, I will start practicing my 7-pin with it for the Dutchman in a couple weeks. I have a Super Natural and wanted to take my spare ball out for this tournament. I've only thrown a few games with my Super Natural but have put up some big numbers and look forward to using this ball in the Guardianed Team House. Will have picks up and a full review sometime this week.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: LuckyLefty on June 09, 2013, 10:55:14 AM
I agree completely!  I am loving my Natural for spares.  Have hardly ever struck with it!

But for eliminating squirt... as AvaBob says.....Awesome.  I am relatively owning my 7 pin(flat to broken wrist) after many disastrous seasons with it!  For combos like the 2-7, 247(flat wrist), 2478 (cupped wrist)love it!

I've also picked up easily the 3 10 a RARITY for this lefty.

This strike dud is a spare star for me!  Drilled strong!

For striking I wish I had picked up the Blue Urethane remake.  Looks like it might have a touch of reactive in it based on similar bowlers to myself who can strike with it!

Regards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: Big Jake on August 08, 2013, 11:50:38 PM
Hi, I hope you guys dont mind me jumping in here. I currently am using a Roto-Grip Grenade (urethane) which I love, so I  find that ball works so well for me at where I bowl but its usually for the 3rd game only.

So I am wanting another urethane ball for the 2nd game when oil permits :) so in my search it seems that the STORM SN or the MOTIV Tank should fit the bill. So have any of you tried the Roto-Grip Grenade and the STORM SN? if so is the STORM SN stronger then the Roto-Grip Grenade?

I'm thinking that the STORM SN comes polished so taking off the polish probably would make it turn up a little sooner. Thanks for your input, Jake
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: riggs on August 09, 2013, 03:42:35 AM
Haven't tried GRENADE so can't compare. But taking shine off SUPER NATURAL will make it start earlier for sure.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: Rightycomplex on August 09, 2013, 05:48:41 AM
Haven't tried GRENADE so can't compare. But taking shine off SUPER NATURAL will make it start earlier for sure.

Yessir!!!!!! LOL! Loving mine with a 1500 pad applied. Easy to read, smooth reaction, and best of all doesnt flat 7. Makes me earn my strikes but I do have a little miss room.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: cedar on August 09, 2013, 10:52:47 AM
I got mine at 1000 matte finish, ball is an absolute beauty for sport shots WTBA stockholm, wtba sidney, wtba los angeles, cheetah, wolf. It is amazing ball hits like a beast and is smooth and very predictable.
Amazing ball by Storm, I generally didnt buy Storm for short given how snappy they are and how i like my ball to roll into the pocket in short, this ball does it. Reactionwise, compared to the Grenade by Roto, The Super is Longer and smoother and gives you a larger "miss area" My Grenade really was good, but the super natural gives me what I was looking for something smoother and longer, that hits like a beast. I am a rev dominant player with speed and the grenade would leave me tons of 10 pins and the reaction back at the deck really wasnt as amazing as it is with the supernatural.
I bowled a 730 series on short wtb stockholm, which really isnt easy for me given my higher revs, i usually have these series on much longer oil patterns. But the supernatural makes it easy and gives me a small miss area that any bowler can appreciate. This ball is really a homerun for short by storm.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: ccrider on August 09, 2013, 11:29:44 AM
How does the Super Natural compare to the Natural Pearl?
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: Big Jake on August 09, 2013, 11:42:36 AM
Thanks for the replies, since I'm a retired old fart now the Grenade works great for me :)

but not enough ooomph for the 2nd game thats why I thought about trying stronger urethane...urethanes are just so smooooth and controllable.
Title: Re: SUPER NATURAL review by Storm staffer Jeff Richgels
Post by: cedar on August 09, 2013, 05:54:35 PM
The natural pearl is long and snappy, to me the super natural with 1000 abralon will read a lot better on midlane and go smoothly into the pocket.  OOB it is also not as snappy and reads the midlane better. If you like to play a str8 line and watch it break hard then the nat pearl is great, if you are like me and like the ball to roll onto the deck in short then the supernatural is really amazing