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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: jmc1972 on November 04, 2017, 08:33:52 AM
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Just curious....
Has anyone polished up a Surelock? Did you like the reaction? I polished mine up last night in preparation for a tournament on the new PBA Johnny Patraglia Pattern starting today. If needed I will knock down the polish.
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Mine is still original box and I'm going to take it up to 3000 or 4000 this weekend. For whatever reason, the Surelock doesn't roll well for me at box grit. My Guru's and Pitbull have turned out to be much better oil balls for me.
As you say, if you don't like it polished, you can adjust again.
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Going to be style and condition specific obviously. Pretty depressing to me how quickly I can turn even my More Cash into nearly a spare ball with high grit and polish with my low rev style on heavier oil synthetics.
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Mine is still original box and I'm going to take it up to 3000 or 4000 this weekend. For whatever reason, the Surelock doesn't roll well for me at box grit. My Guru's and Pitbull have turned out to be much better oil balls for me.
As you say, if you don't like it polished, you can adjust again.
So I polished it up and I tried it out during practice a few shots. After wiping away the repeats from laughter I put it back in the bag. It was a very bad decision. The ball rev’d up nicely hit the dry at 36’ and kept on rev’ing as it went straight through the 6-10. The monitor showed a speed of 16.5.
I’m going to sand it back down tonight after league and try it again before cashers tomorrow.
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Maybe it's just me, but for the life of me I'll never understand the true purpose of polishing a high end asymmetric ball, when there are different options to fit certain conditions/reactions.
Makes no sense to me imo, defeats the purpose of the ball, but to each their own.
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Maybe it's just me, but for the life of me I'll never understand the true purpose of polishing a high end asymmetric ball, when there are different options to fit certain conditions/reactions.
Makes no sense to me imo, defeats the purpose of the ball, but to each their own.
The purpose of Polishing or Sanding a bowling ball, whether it's a Asymmetrical or a Symmetrical. Is to fine tune the reaction to best match the conditions at hand.
It doesn't defeat the purpose of the ball, when done properly and at the proper time it enhances it's performance.
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Maybe it's just me, but for the life of me I'll never understand the true purpose of polishing a high end asymmetric ball, when there are different options to fit certain conditions/reactions.
Makes no sense to me imo, defeats the purpose of the ball, but to each their own.
The purpose of Polishing or Sanding a bowling ball, whether it's a Asymmetrical or a Symmetrical. Is to fine tune the reaction to best match the conditions at hand.
It doesn't defeat the purpose of the ball, when done properly and at the proper time it enhances it's performance.
Can kind of see both points but most of the time when someone is polishing a Sure Lock its because they should have bought a Hy-Road instead.
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I never mentioned surface, I mentioned polish (we all know the purpose and the great purposes of surface). Polishing strong asymmetric balls defeats the purpose of buying the ball in the first place.
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I never mentioned surface, I mentioned polish (we all know the purpose and the great purposes of surface). Polishing strong asymmetric balls defeats the purpose of buying the ball in the first place.
I would have to agree with above polishing strong asymmetric balls is not the best use of buying such a strong ball. I have a Sure Lock in box condition drilled for a new house I started bowling in this season that was suppose to be oily but they changed shot this season thus it sits in its bag in the truck. I got a used Motiv Ghost from a friend who only used it for less than 20 games and figured I would try it with polish at both houses and honestly did not like how unpredictable it reacted for me. Took polish off and I love the reaction but can not use it on the house shots I bowl on thus far this season as it is too strong so it sits in the bag.
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The thing I find most interesting is the sheer number of people who are afraid to experiment with surface changes. Perhaps I am a bit more adventurous than others, then again, I do have a ball spinner with Abralon Pads, Compound, and Polish.
As my coach puts it the surface accounts for 90% of overall roll. I can always go back to box finish with a little bit of my time.
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I never mentioned surface, I mentioned polish (we all know the purpose and the great purposes of surface). Polishing strong asymmetric balls defeats the purpose of buying the ball in the first place.
I would have to agree with above polishing strong asymmetric balls is not the best use of buying such a strong ball. I have a Sure Lock in box condition drilled for a new house I started bowling in this season that was suppose to be oily but they changed shot this season thus it sits in its bag in the truck. I got a used Motiv Ghost from a friend who only used it for less than 20 games and figured I would try it with polish at both houses and honestly did not like how unpredictable it reacted for me. Took polish off and I love the reaction but can not use it on the house shots I bowl on thus far this season as it is too strong so it sits in the bag.
Exactly.
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Trying different things is not a bad thing (that’s what’s great about it trying different reactions to find what fits you). However, while you may find lightning in a bottle, it DOESNT take away defeating the purpose of purchasing and the intent of such a agressive heavy oil ball.
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Maybe it's just me, but for the life of me I'll never understand the true purpose of polishing a high end asymmetric ball, when there are different options to fit certain conditions/reactions.
Makes no sense to me imo, defeats the purpose of the ball, but to each their own.
I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday. :)
I bought the SureLock as an oil ball. For that purpose, it's not working. It's laboring to rev in the midlane, and I don't like the transition to friction downline. I bowl in a year round sport league with longer patterns, so I know I'm attempting to use it on the right shots. As I mentioned, my Guru's with surface are working fine.
So I have a choice. Give up on the ball and sell it, or play with the surface to see if it's usable for something.
I'm not going crazy with surface adjustments. The SureLock comes 2000 NIB, and I hit it with a 4000 pad for 10 seconds on each side hoping that the ball will roll better, for something. I can hit it harder with a 4000 pad if that seems to be the right direction.
We'll see today when I go up and practice.
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I polished up 2 of my older solid high end balls just to see what might happen. I wasn't using them so why not. Glad I did because I really liked the result. Not sure I would do it on a new ball but it's not like you can't go back.
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Understand..... hope it works out for you; Again as I mentioned earlier, there will always be exceptions to the rule ;as in some situations it should be).
If I had to as a last resort, I would BUT ONLY as a last resort. It may work out for you. Let us know. :)
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Understand..... hope it works out for you; Again as I mentioned earlier, there will always be exceptions to the rule ;as in some situations it should be).
If I had to as a last resort, I would BUT ONLY as a last resort. It may work out for you. Let us know. :)
In this case, the surface adjustment to my SureLock seemed to work. I tested it on a house shot, but I could tell the ball rolled better. Even at 4000, it should be able to handle 45+ oil patterns pretty well.
There is nothing abnormal about making significant surface adjustments. There are too many variables related to ball speed, revs, rotation, etc. for a one size fits all grit on a ball. There are many legitimate reasons to change covers. It happens all the time.
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Agreed
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Shot a 290 with a Sure Lock today. Needed it to ignore the first set of feet a bit more with the same strong midlane read and continuation down the lane. Don't hesitate.