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Greven

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Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« on: January 16, 2015, 01:48:39 AM »
I have a problem with mostly storm solid balls. They turn a little in the middle part but then no more. The balls are out of box. Lanes i play on has always sport patterns "London". Sometimes the balls works in other Alleys. So it might be my lanes that have a high friction in the front part that gets the ball to die out.

I am a stroker that has medium to low speed. Average 205-215 on sport patterns.

Anybody els got the same problems. If you do. What sort of balls can solve my problem. Medium ball with a early layout on the ball "maybe" ?

/Greven
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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2015, 03:35:24 PM »
does storm always do a surface prep of 500 then the another surface? They never release balls in their true surface prep?
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JustRico

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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2015, 04:14:27 PM »
What you mean true surface prep? Surface is what it is
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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2015, 05:36:23 PM »
Quote from: Joker-1 on January 18, 2015, 03:35:24 PM
does storm always do a surface prep of 500 then the another surface? They never release balls in their true surface prep?

Typically the solid covers from Storm always go 500/final grit.  For example, the IQ Tour Nano is listed as 4000 grit, although it really is 500/4000.  Compare this to a Covert Revolt from Motiv, originally listed at 3000 grit (now 4000 LSS).  The surface process for Motiv is 500/1000/2000/4000. 

The Covert Revolt will have the truer surface due to the additional steps used in the process.  Storm's surface process on the solid covers have always skipped the 2 middle steps listed in Motiv's surfacing process.  What this means is that the Storm product at 500/4000 compared to Motiv's equivalent product at 500/1000/2000/4000 will react earlier in the midlane whereas Motiv's product will be cleaner up front and have additional length with a larger backend move.  This is due to the additional surface texture that the Storm process has by just going 500/final surface grit on the solid covers. 

500 grit will cut into the cover fairy deep to create surface, and then the additional steps/finer grits used smooth out the peaks/valleys created when creating a surface on a ball. 

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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2015, 01:39:05 AM »
Three new centers. Worked ok on Seoul for about 1-2 series. Montreal in an other center it just was to weak. A little turn in the middle nothing in the last part. I'm actually going to trade balls. I will test the Sinister instead of the IQ tour nano. Hopefully it will work a bit better on long patterns for me.

I Guess some guys just aint aggressive solid balls players. 

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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2015, 07:08:20 AM »
had no idea storm wasn't true surface prep, I just always assumed their overstocks are just strong and aggressive.

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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2015, 09:45:27 AM »
Quote from: Joker-1 on January 19, 2015, 07:08:20 AM
had no idea storm wasn't true surface prep, I just always assumed their overstocks are just strong and aggressive.

 
I think the word "true" is being bastardized a bit here, somehow inferring the resulting surface is illegitimate.
 
Skipping grits is simply a different method for surface preparation. It's not necessarily better or worse. For those who refresh/resurface on their own, try both approaches. See what works better based on the conditions you see. Or use both methods at different times to achieve different goals.
 
When I bought my own spinner several years ago, I went up through the grits (without skipping) like most others. What I found odd was that the OOB cover from the factory usually seemed to have more surface (lower grit) than the final finish I achieved.
 
When I experimented with Storm's documented procedure for skipping grits, I got a truer replication of OOB finishes and reaction, regardless of company. 
 
Again, neither method is right or wrong. Just understand what you're trying to accomplish.   
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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2015, 10:51:17 AM »
Consumers assume bowling ball cover stocks are stronger today...are they or is it the surface prep that creates it? Or do we simply accept what the manufacturers tell us
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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2015, 12:10:25 PM »
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I have a problem with mostly storm solid balls. They turn a little in the middle part but then no more. The balls are out of box. Lanes i play on has always sport patterns "London". Sometimes the balls works in other Alleys. So it might be my lanes that have a high friction in the front part that gets the ball to die out.

I am a stroker that has medium to low speed. Average 205-215 on sport patterns.

Anybody els got the same problems. If you do. What sort of balls can solve my problem. Medium ball with a early layout on the ball "maybe" ?

/Greven

Bingo!  Worn lane topography strong solid with surface would tend to burn up and not show you the stronger finish that you seek.  IMO and it's also what I see on such a situation.
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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2015, 12:16:21 PM »
Quote from: JustRico on January 19, 2015, 10:51:17 AM
Consumers assume bowling ball cover stocks are stronger today...are they or is it the surface prep that creates it? Or do we simply accept what the manufacturers tell us



Completely agree!!!! 
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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2015, 06:44:46 AM »
Well i got a sinister instead and it did go thrue the heads a bit better and it had a bit Power left in the last part but i thought it to be a bit to angular "more of a skid/flip movment on Heavy oil" for me. I like a Little more arching move. To get a good read on what happens. Guess i will have to train on my angular game.

I'm now going to buy the motiv jackal. Hope it looks as good on my game as it looks on many of my teammates.
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Re: Solid Balls "IQ Tour nano"
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2015, 12:52:21 PM »
Storm balls are known for big backend and big reaction off the spot.

Bowled with a good friend on a really sloppy backend shot yesterday.  After a league of plastic bowlers.

He with his Sync, Very little reaction in his comfort zone but he moved wide(right) broke his wrist back and tore it up!

I went on my side with my Tropical Heat Hybrid Black Silver(pearly) and I went left about two boards  and he was amazed how much energy, hit,  and jump I had off the spot.

Now not talking about Sport patterns but in many an oily tournament on a house type pattern I have gone way wide and used a Pearl.  Oh my Battle Zone Bullet when an infant was an oily shot killer!  I used to love to straighten up and tear up the oil monsters of the day!    ProActives, Particles etc....

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