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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: 2handedrook12 on September 16, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
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Is it possible to get a Tropical Breeze to roll similar to a Sun Storm? I'm thinking around 2-3 inches from PAP at 500-1000 grit to read early but smooth downlane similar to the old/dull reactives.
Also I was wondering if a Tropical Breeze could be similar to a Teal Storm (on todays conditions not how it rolled back then)
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I can't give you much as to how the Tropical would roll compared to the old-school reactives, but I can tell you that adding surface to the Tropical can and does work wonders (depending upon what you're looking for). I took my Tropical Breeze to 500 grit to get it to read earlier and smooth out the over/under I was seeing at box finish, and the ball was amazing. The grit got it reading the lane sooner and made it SUPER predictable. It allowed me to play up the outside with more confidence than I've ever had since the urethane days. For me, the Tropical Breeze has been one of the best light-oil pieces I've ever thrown, and it became so AFTER I took the surface down to 500.
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I just picked up a Tropical Breeze to use on all the short/light patterns we have been seeing all over NoCal. Tried a Ride, but it was still too much ball. Will try the control layout on the Storm layout sheet.
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The Breezes are VERY mild. It's really one of the only true light oil reactives I've ever found. In comparison, the original Tropical Storm I had back in the day was way more aggressive. That ball was allergic to oil, but it snapped hard when it found dry. For me, the Breezes are rollier by nature and really don't look to make a big move even when they find the friction. I simply say all this because I'm not sure that a control drilling is even going to be necessary unless you have a ton of hand.
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So, just a standard 4 X 4 on the Tropical Breeze would be OK on these short/light oil shots? I am pretty much up the back at around 14mph.
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I would be inclined to say that a standard drilling will be fine. For me, the bigger factor was knocking the surface polish off. Once I did that, the ball because a miracle for me. I can use it as a spare ball and as a great piece for playing straight up the outside. It's just smooth and rolly all the way.
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4K with abralon a good choice?
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I knocked off the shine with a fresh 4k with my TB. It was o/u during transition for me with the stock cover, but I could stay with this ball through the whole set barely moving with 4k. actually, I was moving right at LP instead of left. If there was push down lane, the TB could still make the turn from outside avoiding the mess on the track down lane. At the same time, it shim'd when I pulled it for high flush lol...
TB was my primary ball for several years at LP and I'm getting one again (sold the 14 punders x2) after OCT.
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Thanks Addik, you know my game, so 4K may be the ticket ;D
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I think it takes to surface changes quite well. I've LOVED mine at 500; it gave it a urethane-like reaction with just a touch more movement and better hit. Still, to each his own!
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I will start at 4K and see how it works. Can always move down.
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True enough
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Hey Gene!
So that was 500 grit.....no polish?
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I have a natural heavy roll, I struggle on dry and most of my stuff are polished with UFO with 4k or 5k underneath the polish. Though my tilt is still very low, I've increased my rotation somewhat.... Here's a video with the TB with 4K no polish.....Lanes 32 at LP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiwCjuzrEcU
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Nice. Ball should be here next week. Get Mr. Rick to drill it up and change the surface and we shall see.
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Mine was 500 no polish. I've gone 500 plus polish on some pearls in the past and gotten some really nice results. In fact, my Melee Jab is 500 plus polish, and it is a pearlized beast! Still, the Tropical Breeze was 500 no polish, and it's amazing for me.
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Nice. Ball should be here next week. Get Mr. Rick to drill it up and change the surface and we shall see.
Did you see my layout? 5 3/4" pin to pap lol above my middle finger..
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Yes I did. Thanks.
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Gene,
I'm considering a Tropical Breeze at 500 grit for short patterns. Is it viable enough to replace urethane? I worry with the rev rate that I have that the overall hook would be too much. Should I use my favorite layout or a stable layout? A lot of people are trying to steer me away from urethane.
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Gene,
I'm considering a Tropical Breeze at 500 grit for short patterns. Is it viable enough to replace urethane? I worry with the rev rate that I have that the overall hook would be too much. Should I use my favorite layout or a stable layout? A lot of people are trying to steer me away from urethane.
It's not your rev rate that may be the problem.
It's whether you're speed dominant, rev dominant or matched (rev vs. speed) that, I believe, is the factor you need to worry about.
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More rev dominate (on normal release and speed)
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More rev dominate (on normal release and speed)
The Trop. Breeze is already the least reactive resin ball that I have thrown among today's choices. Some older balls, 10 - 20 years older, may be weaker, but they're only available on Ebay. Also being rev dominant, and also facing some very light oil patterns, I generally use some very weak balls; fortunately for me, I do have some older balls, like the AMF Orbit Extreme & a Visionary Blue/Green Centaur. Dulling a Trop. Br. may be a very good alternative to a urethane, as most urethanes are very susceptible to wet/drys and carrydown. I would suggest trying an intermediate level of roughness, like 1500/2000 grit, to start with, as 500 grit is rather extreme. Normally I'd start with 4000 which is already a step down from the stock surface which is in the 5000 - 5500 grit range (a polish).
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Could I put my favorite layout on it or should I put the weight block in a more stable position?
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Could I put my favorite layout on it or should I put the weight block in a more stable position?
I would put your favorite drilling and pin-PAP distance on it. Its flare is so small in any case.