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milkshake227

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um... wtf!? help plz
« on: December 19, 2007, 05:02:00 AM »
so i got some coaching and my coach recommended an attitude shift, but my mom being the cheapskate she is decided to order online at bowling.com

well it came today and this is what it looks like

ive never seen a ball like that before, is it okay? do i need to send it back?

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2866/attitudeshiftro9.jpg

 

Jeff Carter

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Re: um... wtf!? help plz
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2007, 07:10:45 AM »
you guys can talk layouts and static weights all day long....but what nobody has asked, and is the most important question is what is your approx rev rate and ball speed. Also what is your axis point. Before you can do anything i need that information

Somebody earlier mentioned the key to accomplishing the reaction that you're looking for. You dont have to drill agressive bowling balls "agressively" !!! Too many people get caught up in layouts and they "over-trick" the balls characteristics.

If you're looking for something for the medium-long PBA patterns....do something like 4 1/2"-5" pin below the fingers with a small CG kick. That should put the Key around 1"-1 1/2" to the right of the thumb. Try that and if you want the ball to pick up a little sooner you can always put a hole 2" below your axis and adjust the surface. That way you're getting a controlled and predictable ball reaction
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Re: um... wtf!? help plz
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2007, 08:59:17 AM »
I have to agree with Jeff, with the exception of one point.... with that short of a pin, you will have a hard time getting the cg low enough to put a weight hole in the thumb positive quadrant, because you will be fighting against having to much ending finger weight to be legal.  However, everything else makes a lot of sense.  Make sure that whatever drilling you do that you don't have to put a hole above your PAP.... that will reduce the flare of the ball, and I'm sure from what you've said that you don't want that.  That means the pin HAS to be down.... do not drill that ball with the pin up, because you WILL regret it.

milkshake227

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Re: um... wtf!? help plz
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2007, 11:55:19 PM »
UPDATE

got it drilled today, here is how it looks.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/860/drilledqh3.jpg


only threw about 6-8 balls with it, and so far am not TO impressed, im sure i just have to get used to it, and it might of been the conditions, bowled on a lane where a league had just ended, so i imagine there was alot of carrydown, but it wasnt that heavy of a shot and it wasn't doing much, hopefully i can take it out again soon. although when i did hit the pocket there was no doubt about it, this thing hits HARD

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Re: um... wtf!? help plz
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2007, 12:06:59 AM »

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Re: um... wtf!? help plz
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2007, 01:14:06 AM »
quote:
You can use it but you really can't do much with it. If you looking for a pin under the fingers the ball is ok but if you are needing it up above then its not what you need.



Pin under the fingers is not a bad option - I have (or had, it is retired) a Trauma with a similar pin distance, and it was set up pin 4" from ym PAP and the CG/PSA locator slightly swung out, with a small balance hole:

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3473691

I was sceptical at first, but the ball has become one of my favorites, because it is very smooth at the breakpoint. I have seen Traumas drilled for length, and they were snappy beasts, while mine shows a very continuous move - very easy to control. With the Attitude Shift, being an oil ball, such a setup makes even sense, so I'd go for it. You just will not be bale to make the ball very sharp in the back end, but that's not what it was originally designed for in the first place.

Nothing big to worry about

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Re: um... wtf!? help plz
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2007, 09:49:03 AM »
quote:
meaning?

is it still good?

i need this ball for sport shots / pba league / tournaments

so i want to drill it as aggresive as i possibly can


Good layout for the shots you said you will be bowling on. You want control and not to cover alot of boards if possible. Straighter is greater.

Edited on 12/24/2007 10:54 AM