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Title: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: zone72 on August 14, 2011, 05:07:21 PM
Any one heard Storm have this new release.

Same color but with Pearl coverstock and 1500grit polish finish.
 
Edited by zone72 on 15/8/2011 at 9:04 AM
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Fuggin on August 15, 2011, 11:06:49 AM
Is this supposed to be a hybrid like the Hammer Arson?

Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Bigmike on August 16, 2011, 05:31:58 AM
Haven't heard anything yet, but would love it. The Virtual Energy is one of my favorites and I still have one I keep to play around with surfaces, etc.

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Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: ccrider on August 16, 2011, 05:51:26 AM
 Who needs it?  Just polish your nano. Want be much difference.

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Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: zone72 on August 16, 2011, 06:13:28 AM
The ball is Pearl converstock not Hybrid, fragrance same as the solid one. Just want to clarify it is a special edition or a new release.


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: tommyboy74 on August 19, 2011, 05:13:59 PM

Does this likely mean the end of the Anarchy and the Origin core?



My arsenal


Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Storm Anarchy: 1500 polished
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished

Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: billdozer on August 19, 2011, 09:08:15 PM
I guess so.  But as I can see you like the anarchy....i love the invasion....so itll suck at first, but they will improve on the origin core and come out with something better..

 

Think of the dimension line....i loved the continuum core....and would have loved to see that core live on..but they replaced it with something that works for more people on the average, the centripedal core found in the prodigy, marvel solid/pearl.  IMO that is the best symmetical stuff money can buy, followed by the victory road line :D. 

 

besides they gotta outdo the nano anyways right?? atleast for next season!
 



tommyboy74 wrote on 8/19/2011 5:13 PM:

Does this likely mean the end of the Anarchy and the Origin core?




My arsenal



Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Storm Anarchy: 1500 polished
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished


Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished


my arsenal..

http://s890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/_billdozer/My%20Arsenal/
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: tommyboy74 on August 19, 2011, 10:12:20 PM

Good comparison.  Another comparison is how the Nomad/Nomad Pearl and the Nomad Dagger all came out using newer covers and the Rotary core.  Now, Roto came out this summer with the Outlaw and the Bandit using the new Camber core which apparently is designed to be more versatile.  My guess is that the Dagger will be replaced by a new hybrid in the next year or so.



My arsenal


Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Storm Anarchy: 1500 polished
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished

Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Strapper_Squared on August 22, 2011, 05:45:25 AM
If you are lucky, there may be a chance that the core re-emerges as a mid-line offering sometime in the future.

 

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Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Siu Bing on August 24, 2011, 11:06:04 AM
well, saw the ball today but don't have any info on it. other than the VGN pearl, there is a marvel skid

Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Norm3v on August 25, 2011, 09:05:32 AM
In the past it seems that Storm has differentiated their Storm and Roto Grip lines with Storm being the most backend and overall hook and Roto Grip more midlane and control. Now with the Critical Theory blowing that out of the water, I have to assume that the next Premier line replacement for the Virtual Energy/Anarchy is going to have to 1 up the Critical Theory in some way. I'm thinking of getting a Critical Theory as my stand inside and swing it ball when I need it, but I'm also curious to see what the Anarchy replacement is going to be before I make my decision.


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: J_w73 on August 25, 2011, 09:11:02 PM
VG Nano Pearl_rgb.gif (29 downloads)
Description: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano Pearl

Storm_Virtual Gravity Nano Pearl v Solid_RPM Test.pdf (23 downloads)
Description: Solid vs. Pearl Test

Storm_Virtual Gravity Nano Pearl_Design Intent.pdf (10 downloads)
Description: Design Intent

virtualgravitynanopearl-techsheet.pdf (16 downloads)
Description: Tech Sheet


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Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: mediumrevs15 on August 25, 2011, 10:54:58 PM
Any release date?
Is this the us version of the domination nano?
 
Edited by mediumrevs15 on 8/25/2011 at 11:49 PM
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: tdub36tjt on August 26, 2011, 07:05:29 AM
Looks good. I saw the release date being sept 26th according to...
 
 http://petesproshop.co.uk/acatalog/Storm.html
 
However, that Marvel Skid catches my imagination even more. With how great the Marvel and Marvel Pearl are, I can't imagine anything but another great ball...  


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Norm3v on August 26, 2011, 09:49:00 AM
Wow, they are adding mica into a premier line ball now, they got my attention...


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Siu Bing on August 30, 2011, 06:34:42 AM
okay, here are the photos:
 
 


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: billdozer on August 30, 2011, 02:11:38 PM
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.hi-sp.co.jp/&ei=-VBdTq6PF-rD0AGX69ntAg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCEQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhi-sp.co.jp%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1143%26bih%3D517%26site%3Dwebhp%26prmd%3Divns

 

the japanese videos are up!


my arsenal..

http://s890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/_billdozer/My%20Arsenal/
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: tommyboy74 on August 30, 2011, 06:31:46 PM

I did read up about it on a UK pro shop site http://petesproshop.co.uk/acatalog/Storm.html.  It will be the 1500 polished NRG pearl cover as you mentioned.  However, it will also have ETM (Enhanced Traction Mica) in the cover just as the Prodigy does now.  Colors are slightly different (pearl is orange/navy/charcoal compared to orange/cobalt /navy on the solid.)  Either way, it looks like it will be an interesting ball to say the least.



My arsenal


Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Storm Anarchy: 1500 polished
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished

Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: TheDude on August 30, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
Interesting to read that HI-SP has an office in North America, and that area code matches up to Vancouver BC.
 
 


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LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Keep them honest!

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Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Jmiller88 on August 31, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
Is the new Hybrid Orange/Green?

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Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: chidawg10 on August 31, 2011, 01:12:47 PM
any word on US release date for this ball?


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Norm3v on August 31, 2011, 02:34:05 PM
I know this question is going to be asked and panned, but I'm curious because I'm very interested in this release. How has the mica held up in people's Prodigys in terms of durability and ability to resurface to close to the OOB surface? I have read a lot on here and other places about the downfalls of putting particles in the coverstock, so before I make a $200 investment, I would like to know if my ball can put up with high games and normal maintenance on my spinner.


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: avabob on September 01, 2011, 11:53:34 AM
Great question about the mica.  My prodigy when from a hit monster to a very ordinary ball in about 30 games.  i tried everything with the cover but never got a look like the out of box performance. 


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Trudell on September 01, 2011, 03:53:08 PM
Best thing to do is use a spinner when  you get a ball brand new and bring the surface down to 1000.  Go roll it and do surface adjustments off of what you see.  Then after a number of games when you want to put it back you can put it back to the same surface that you decided to go with from the spinner.  Box reaction is impossible to replicate but if you never know what it is you wont miss it either.
 



avabob wrote on 9/1/2011 11:53 AM:
Great question about the mica.  My prodigy when from a hit monster to a very ordinary ball in about 30 games.  i tried everything with the cover but never got a look like the out of box performance. 




Billy Trudell
Storm PBA regional staff
Drilling Tech Next Level Proshop
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: EFFEN 10 on September 01, 2011, 05:19:12 PM

 



Trudell wrote on 9/1/2011 3:53 PM:
Best thing to do is use a spinner when  you get a ball brand new and bring the surface down to 1000.  Go roll it and do surface adjustments off of what you see.  Then after a number of games when you want to put it back you can put it back to the same surface that you decided to go with from the spinner.  Box reaction is impossible to replicate but if you never know what it is you wont miss it either.
 






avabob wrote on 9/1/2011 11:53 AM:

Great question about the mica.  My prodigy when from a hit monster to a very ordinary ball in about 30 games.  i tried everything with the cover but never got a look like the out of box performance. 





Billy Trudell
Storm PBA regional staff
Drilling Tech Next Level Proshop
Great advise! I've been doing this for the last couple of years.

The more I practice,the luckier I get.
 
Edited by EFFEN 10 on 9/1/2011 at 5:18 PM
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Dan Belcher on September 02, 2011, 05:30:32 AM
My Prodigy was unusable with the box finish because it hooked at my feet even with a lengthy low-flaring layout (pin is under the middle finger, around 5.5" from my PAP). I hit it with 1000 abralon then applied a light coat of polish by hand, and now the ball is amazingly smooth off the spot. Perfect for shorter patterns and fresh backends. I haven't seen any loss in reaction since drilling it up.


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on September 02, 2011, 06:42:56 AM
 Billy hit it on the head.  I rarely throw anything oob because of that.  After trying many surfaces, I get the best roll on my prodigy at 2000 polished.

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Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Storm Tech on September 02, 2011, 09:42:28 AM
Hello,

 

We would like to clarify some of the messages we have been reading about the E.T.M. Mica coverstock on the Virtual Gravity Nano Pearl. This is NOT true. Based off of the tech sheet for the Nano Pearl, there is a mention of Mica added to the coverstock for increased length or skid through the heads.


 


This is not E.T.M. Mica, it is simply another name for the pearl we put in all of our pearl coverstocks. Mica comes in many different sizes, and E.T.M. is another name for the larger mica size that had increased traction performance due to the size. The Mica in the Nano Pearl is the same as in all of the other pearl balls in our line, which is a finer size. Hopefully this clarifies any confusion that the Virtual Gravity Nano Pearl does NOT have the Prodigy coverstock. It is indeed a pearlized NRG coverstock.

Thank you,


 


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Norm3v on September 02, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
Thanks Storm and to everyone else who replied! Can't wait to see this puppy in action!
 



Storm Tech wrote on 9/2/2011 9:42 AM:
Hello,


 


We would like to clarify some of the messages we have been reading about the E.T.M. Mica coverstock on the Virtual Gravity Nano Pearl. This is NOT true. Based off of the tech sheet for the Nano Pearl, there is a mention of Mica added to the coverstock for increased length or skid through the heads.



 



This is not E.T.M. Mica, it is simply another name for the pearl we put in all of our pearl coverstocks. Mica comes in many different sizes, and E.T.M. is another name for the larger mica size that had increased traction performance due to the size. The Mica in the Nano Pearl is the same as in all of the other pearl balls in our line, which is a finer size. Hopefully this clarifies any confusion that the Virtual Gravity Nano Pearl does NOT have the Prodigy coverstock. It is indeed a pearlized NRG coverstock.


Thank you,



 




Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: ccrider on September 02, 2011, 01:11:02 PM
Do you really believe that it is going to do something, anything, that many other balls do not do????????


Those that can do. Those that can't complain. Pimpin ain't easy, but it's mandatory.

Most things we like, we don't need. Most things we need, we don't like. Don't confuse your likes with your needs.
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Norm3v on September 02, 2011, 02:20:25 PM
I'm hoping that this could be a TRUE replacement for my Virtual Energy this fall if need be. There could very well be a bowling ball that will perform similar to this one, however its probably scientifically impossible to match the exact reaction considering the amount of variables that go into making a bowling ball. Its very well possible that if I had an Anarchy in good condition that I would skip this release and wait a while for the next strong pearl or hybrid release, but I have an older Virtual Energy that is going to need replacing soon.
 



ccrider wrote on 9/2/2011 1:11 PM:
Do you really believe that it is going to do something, anything, that many other balls do not do????????


Those that can do. Those that can't complain. Pimpin ain't easy, but it's mandatory.

Most things we like, we don't need. Most things we need, we don't like. Don't confuse your likes with your needs.


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: nicklo13 on September 02, 2011, 03:06:40 PM
Release date is October 11 and October 25 for the Frantic....both are already on Buddies Pro Shop's website


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: nocarey on September 02, 2011, 04:06:48 PM
so. . .when will the US see the "Domination Nano" ?

Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: TheDude on September 04, 2011, 10:41:33 AM
asking storm reps and the president, i got a very certain " never" for that exact ball but the technology will come through the pipe line. That is a certain.
 
nocarey wrote on 9/2/2011 4:06 PM:so. . .when will the US see the "Domination Nano" ?



Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Keep them honest!

Ebay store updated very often: http://stores.ebay.com/gumby3170?refid+store
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: nocarey on September 04, 2011, 01:15:43 PM

 thanks. . .can't wait to see the future releases
TheDude wrote on 9/4/2011 10:41 AM:
asking storm reps and the president, i got a very certain " never" for that exact ball but the technology will come through the pipe line. That is a certain.
 
nocarey wrote on 9/2/2011 4:06 PM:so. . .when will the US see the "Domination Nano" ?



Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Keep them honest!

Ebay store updated very often: http://stores.ebay.com/gumby3170?refid+store


Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: billdozer on September 05, 2011, 06:54:24 PM
after reading the thread,

 

I'm a huge fan of the Energy (and the infinite theory) they have the same hybrid 1/3 solid, 2/3 pearl concept for their coverstock.  but the all pearl sounds great too!

 

I also shot a few 300's with my energy, the cover did extremely well with resurfacing and changes, but like my original shift, it CRACKED! but whatever, its all good, I have plently of equipment that i dont like that i especially dont have honor scores with (theyre mostly not from utah too!) i tell everyone the energy cracked cause i threw too many strikes with it!

 

bring on a nano that i can actually use on a THS haha..october come on already.

 

 

I can also add, my prodigy is aging like wine...its always in my bag the ETM is awesome, i know i sound like a fan boy but I STILL use my second dimension and i STILL take sidepots with it. 

 

have a good nite bolt throwers..

 

 


my arsenal..

http://s890.photobucket.com/albums/ac110/_billdozer/My%20Arsenal/
 
Edited by billdozer on 9/5/2011 at 6:55 PM
Title: Re: VG Nano Pearl
Post by: Norm3v on September 05, 2011, 08:27:14 PM
I hate to be that guy, but I have to wonder how this ball compares to the Critical Theory. Obviously the VGNP is 1500 grit polished and the Critical Theory is 4000 abralon so the comparisons are going to have different variables involved such as changing the surfaces the match. Scientifically the Critical Theory should grap the lane earlier with the dull surface where as the VGNP should skid a bit further due to the surface prep alone, but thats just a theory (har har har). It could be that these might not compete against each other as much as compliment each other with the oob surfaces remaining the same.