Post by: cdcollins on October 06, 2009, 04:22:05 AM
However, after about 30 games, I noticed that the ball was polishing itself, and after 60 games, it looked like a billiard ball, very shiny and not a lot of snap. I took it to a pro shop, had it baked and resurfaced, but nothing has brought it back even close to the original shape.
I even went so far to purchase a second ball, love it new, but after around 60 games, I want to throw it away. I am not the only one in our wood lane house to have this reaction.
Anyone else have this reaction from the VG??
Any ideas how to resurrect this, or should I look for another ball, if so, which one?
Thanks for your input.
Chris
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on October 06, 2009, 12:35:58 PM
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Post by: icewall on October 06, 2009, 12:51:12 PM
also the 500/4000 surface is similar to a polish. both surfaces will get tracked up after 10 or 12 games and really start to lose their reaction after 30 games if nothing is done to keep the surface fresh. all bowling balls do this but since the vg sucks up a lot of oil and has a large backend it becomes very noticeable.
some people are able to get the ball back to racting like oob and some cant. I know my proshop guy has this problem and sometimes has to drill up more then 1 of each ball for when the first ones surface gets messed up.
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Post by: scotts33 on October 06, 2009, 12:53:07 PM
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Post by: tizzle on October 06, 2009, 03:36:29 PM
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Post by: tc300 on October 06, 2009, 04:32:15 PM
i shoulda waited for the VE to come out... would have been a WWWAAAAAYYYYY much batter ball for me!!
Post by: ccrider on October 06, 2009, 05:45:05 PM
I clean my balls after every set, and wipe them after each shot.
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Post by: ccrider on October 06, 2009, 05:45:43 PM
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I am not buying into VG ball death. My VG has 30+ games on it. I have not noticed any loss of carry or reaction. I have changed the surface to 4000 polished. The ball reacts like a champ and with this surface, I can start left and play all threee games with it. I do freshen up the cover with 4000 + a light coat of beans sauce, just to keep that good carry, but I have seen no signs of cover death.
I clean my balls after every set, and wipe them after each shot.
I also use clean n dull every two weeks or so.
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Post by: tc300 on October 06, 2009, 06:25:38 PM
Post by: ccrider on October 06, 2009, 07:42:42 PM
The ball shines up as described over time, but hit it with a 4000 abralon pad and its like new. I have hot water bathed one time. Not because it needed it. Just because I am paranoid.
Clean n Dull at least once every two weeks. More often if I have time.
Beans sauce works great on the cover on top of the 4000. You have to be careful though because too much shine and the ball will slide on you.
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Post by: Blows on October 06, 2009, 10:12:06 PM
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No. I have taken it to 2000 plus polish. Too strong. Went back to 4000, light polish and the ball is a beast on our THS.
The ball shines up as described over time, but hit it with a 4000 abralon pad and its like new. I have hot water bathed one time. Not because it needed it. Just because I am paranoid.
Clean n Dull at least once every two weeks. More often if I have time.
Beans sauce works great on the cover on top of the 4000. You have to be careful though because too much shine and the ball will slide on you.
What he said^^^^ I have my VG at 4000 with little polish shine and it tears up most of the THS i bowl on
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Post by: Blows on October 06, 2009, 10:12:48 PM
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No. I have taken it to 2000 plus polish. Too strong. Went back to 4000, light polish and the ball is a beast on our THS.
The ball shines up as described over time, but hit it with a 4000 abralon pad and its like new. I have hot water bathed one time. Not because it needed it. Just because I am paranoid.
Clean n Dull at least once every two weeks. More often if I have time.
Beans sauce works great on the cover on top of the 4000. You have to be careful though because too much shine and the ball will slide on you.
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What he said^^^^ I have my VG at 4000 with little polish shine and it tears up most of the THS i bowl on
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on October 09, 2009, 03:54:52 PM
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Post by: Gazoo on October 09, 2009, 08:43:51 PM
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Post by: ccrider on October 09, 2009, 09:31:29 PM
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Regardless of manufacturer, depending on the type of lanes you bowl on, a ball will end up at about 600 grit after a period of use. Most bowling balls should be taken back to factory OOB or what ever you were using it at after about 21 games. Once again alot depends on the lane surface you are bowling on. Remember, regardless of what ball you are using, after about 21 games it will be at 600 grit whether sanded or polished and is not going to react like a 4000 or 2000 grit ball sanded or polished.
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Post by: CHawk15 on October 12, 2009, 07:32:32 PM
The VG is one of those balls that is a little more skid/snappy out of the box, and mellows out as it gets broken in. I have 2 and both of them displayed that characteristic new, but I noticed it starting up earlier once the coverstock had been broken in. I use these mostly on the Scorpion on Shark Patterns on the PBA experience league because they're too much ball for me on the league shot in that center.
Post by: 802dave on October 13, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
I had it hit with 360 Abralon for a minute (Haus), then 500 lightly and then 2000 Abralon finish. Very little improvement.
I''''ve ordered some Clean n''''Dull should be here this week.
I think it needs a warm water bath and resurfacing and then keep it clean regularly with Clean n''''Dull.
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