Author Topic: What about Storm?? (Read 8927 times)

Atochabsh · « **on:** January 28, 2008, 04:23:47 PM »

I have a whole wall of storm equipment that has not sold. Including the Storm Gravity Shift that I have listed drilled at under $200. What's the problem? Storm is not selling and I'm not sure why. I have brought in various pieces and they sit there gathering dust.

Storm/ Roto seminar was in town to tutor the Gravity and Cell and only 8 people signed up and showed up for the seminar.

I see PBA guys using it on TV, but it doesn't seem to transmit to any sales locally.

Erin

River700 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2008, 12:28:33 AM »

People are just ignorant of what storm balls can do and are very uneducated in the bowling ball department. It could also be the lack of people in your town, or people just don't have the money, hard to tell sometimes...
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River700 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2008, 12:48:11 AM »

But, also look behind the scense where ebonite balls are dying because of the coverstocks being so porous. Absorbing too much oil.
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agroves · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2008, 01:10:11 AM »

I know what you mean. In the shop I work at, we never sold a Shift or Attitude shift. We ended up shipping them back to the distributor. I don't know. We aren't selling much at all in the high end stuff. We've sold one Twisted and one Bite. Otherwise, we do sell a fair amount of Maxim and Tornadoes.

Andrew
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nd300 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2008, 02:46:20 AM »

The couple of Shifts(that I personally know of) that were sold in the pro shop where I bowl didn't go over so well. Both of them said the same thing.Straight ball,not much back end even with dulling down and/or stronger drillings.One of them is also being returned as a warranty item for cracking all the way around the middle finger within 3 games of the initial drilling.
And before the usual replies of too much ball for not enough oil come out,both bowlers that bought them are consistently averaging 200 plus.One is the third highest average on the junior traveling team from this house,and the adult bowler has several 300's,one 800,countless 700's and averages 217 currently.
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2008, 06:07:56 AM »

From what I've seen, the Shift is a pretty drill-sensitive ball. I've seen a couple that hit like marshmallows, and I've seen a couple that were just explosive on the backend and beat the snot out of the pins.

Storm/Roto does OK around me. I've seen a good bit of Roto stuff moving lately since a couple good bowlers in my leagues are throwing it. (I know of about 5 or 6 people in one league already throwing the Pluto) Otherwise, I see a few older Storm balls, and a handful of the newer gear (a couple Spit Fires, a Secret Agent or two, a couple Shifts, an Attitude Shift or two).

I think the best way to get the equipment to move might be to just start really backing it hard if you think it's quality equipment. Explain why it's good, how it's different from the competition, etc.

tdub36tjt · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2008, 06:22:06 AM »

I am not trying to knock Storm, I just can't seem to justify buying Storm anymore. I don't know why, but with most of the Storm balls I have owned I had a great reaction for about the first month, until the polish would wear off. Once the polish wore off I could never get the same reaction from their equipment ever again. Even with taking it to the pro-shop and bring the surface back to stock.

Its not coverstock death as far as I know, because I have experienced that before with other equipment. After a hot water bath, I have never had a ball that was still "dead". For example, my Domination is like a hockey puck now. When I originally bought that ball it was the strongest backend ball I had ever thrown. Now if anything all it does is slide down the lane and never reacts. My Agent was about the same thing except that ball will still hook a little.

I have given them a hot water bath and taken them into my pro-shop and brought them back to stock surface which didn't help. The only Storm ball I still own and like is my Spitfire, which has consistently been a good ball for me. All I used to buy was Storm because I fell in love with their reactions, but now I don't even consider Storm when going to buy a new ball. If I could ever find the reasoning behind this I might consider another Storm ball, but nothing I try seems to work. I might consider a sanded Storm ball, however, I feel that is not their strongest equipment and they make better skip/flip equipment than anything else.

thirtyclean · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2008, 06:42:39 AM »

We sold a case of Attitude Shifts the week after we received them, and we have sold a few Sure Fires, but that is about it. We have a Shift that is heavily discounted, but does not sell. I have now problems with Storm and Roto. I almost have a complete line of Roto, the latest, the Cell and a Pluto. The
Pluto is a great ball for the price, which I believe fits perfectly between the Neptune and the Staurn. The Cell I have not rolled yet, but cant wait to
throw it. We have been selling mostly Hammer Bites though.
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Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2008, 06:43:08 AM »

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I am not trying to knock Storm, I just can't seem to justify buying Storm anymore. I don't know why, but with most of the Storm balls I have owned I had a great reaction for about the first month, until the polish would wear off. Once the polish wore off I could never get the same reaction from their equipment ever again. Even with taking it to the pro-shop and bring the surface back to stock.

This I don't get because I probably have the same coverstocks you have tried and I haven't have a ball lose a reaction that noticeably.

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The couple of Shifts(that I personally know of) that were sold in the pro shop where I bowl didn't go over so well. Both of them said the same thing.Straight ball,not much back end even with dulling down and/or stronger drillings.One of them is also being returned as a warranty item for cracking all the way around the middle finger within 3 games of the initial drilling.
And before the usual replies of too much ball for not enough oil come out,both bowlers that bought them are consistently averaging 200 plus.One is the third highest average on the junior traveling team from this house,and the adult bowler has several 300's,one 800,countless 700's and averages 217 currently.

Hmm, I am probably not as good as those guys but I can tell you the Shift is not by any stretch a "straight ball with not much back end". I own one and it is pretty angular but smooth. In fact I have to try to throw it harder and straighter than usual because the ball is going to do most of the work anyway.

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From what I've seen, the Shift is a pretty drill-sensitive ball. I've seen a couple that hit like marshmallows, and I've seen a couple that were just explosive on the backend and beat the snot out of the pins.

We just used the same drilling as the drill sheet recommended for house shots. Definitely the hardest hitting ball I have...
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Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2008, 06:45:26 AM »

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We have a Shift that is heavily discounted, but does not sell.

This confuses me because this ball is extremely wicked.
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Monster Pike · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2008, 07:03:01 AM »

I have to agree w/Fluff. My Shift is wicked also, lol. I just bought a 2nd one because I moved down to 15#s. I love the Shift & want to have a couple more NIB before they discontinue them. But, I want to get the Gravity first & see where that fits w/my Attitude, Special & Shifts.
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Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2008, 07:13:08 AM »

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I have to agree w/Fluff. My Shift is wicked also, lol. I just bought a 2nd one because I moved down to 15#s. I love the Shift & want to have a couple more NIB before they discontinue them. But, I want to get the Gravity first & see where that fits w/my Attitude, Special & Shifts.

What I have noticed with the Shift is just find dry and it hooks pretty hard and continuously off of it. Not really flippy but definitely hard left. Not sure how this is a straight ball...
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2008, 07:18:01 AM »

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I am not trying to knock Storm, I just can't seem to justify buying Storm anymore. I don't know why, but with most of the Storm balls I have owned I had a great reaction for about the first month, until the polish would wear off. Once the polish wore off I could never get the same reaction from their equipment ever again. Even with taking it to the pro-shop and bring the surface back to stock.

Curious, but is that only on polished equipment? My Special Agent still hooks just as much as the day I got it. I've only done one oil extraction on it a few months ago, and I have only done a couple light resurfacings to get some fresh surface on it. (I can't really comment on my Spit Fire since it's such a condition-specific ball for me that it doesn't have many games on it. I need a shorter pattern with some friction for that ball to really shine, but I haven't seen that in months now!!)

Bigmike · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2008, 07:42:16 AM »

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I have a whole wall of storm equipment that has not sold. Including the Storm Gravity Shift that I have listed drilled at under $200. What's the problem? Storm is not selling and I'm not sure why. I have brought in various pieces and they sit there gathering dust.

Storm/ Roto seminar was in town to tutor the Gravity and Cell and only 8 people signed up and showed up for the seminar.

I see PBA guys using it on TV, but it doesn't seem to transmit to any sales locally.

Erin

Right now in the store that I work P/T in, Eboumbiammerack is reigning supreme. Mainly the Spider balls. We seem to sell more Widow Bites and Pearls than anything else. We have started to stock some of the Storm/Roto line, but having a owner who is a Columbia staffer and another owner who works for Lanemasters, stacks the deck against other companies.

We have moved a couple of Cell's and some of the lower priced Storm balls like the Jolt particle and Tropical Storms. The center leaves them hooking which keeps the "housers" away from the hook-in-a-box newer stuff i.e high end products. Right now by sales, the worst balls on our shelves are anything from Brunswick. We have not sold a single Blast Zone or Pearl Fury and can not give away the regular Fury priced at $125 drilled out the door. We have sold one Twisted and one Sidewinder and people are not even looking at the Target Zones anymore.

I feel Storm makes the most diverse line in the industry, but you can only tell customers so much before they gravitate towards a "spider" ball.

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northface28 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2008, 08:09:03 AM »

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I have a whole wall of storm equipment that has not sold. Including the Storm Gravity Shift that I have listed drilled at under $200. What's the problem? Storm is not selling and I'm not sure why. I have brought in various pieces and they sit there gathering dust.

Storm/ Roto seminar was in town to tutor the Gravity and Cell and only 8 people signed up and showed up for the seminar.

I see PBA guys using it on TV, but it doesn't seem to transmit to any sales locally.

Erin

Right now in the store that I work P/T in, Eboumbiammerack is reigning supreme. Mainly the Spider balls. We seem to sell more Widow Bites and Pearls than anything else. We have started to stock some of the Storm/Roto line, but having a owner who is a Columbia staffer and another owner who works for Lanemasters, stacks the deck against other companies.

We have moved a couple of Cell's and some of the lower priced Storm balls like the Jolt particle and Tropical Storms. The center leaves them hooking which keeps the "housers" away from the hook-in-a-box newer stuff i.e high end products. Right now by sales, the worst balls on our shelves are anything from Brunswick. We have not sold a single Blast Zone or Pearl Fury and can not give away the regular Fury priced at $125 drilled out the door. We have sold one Twisted and one Sidewinder and people are not even looking at the Target Zones anymore.

I feel Storm makes the most diverse line in the industry, but you can only tell customers so much before they gravitate towards a "spider" ball.

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Mike Craig-Columbus, OH

Take $100 off that Fury and I will buy it. (sarcasm)
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