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Title: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: gradilonec on February 23, 2015, 08:27:26 AM
I just punched up my tour pearl and love the overall reaction, but feel it needs just a little more kick in the backend. Trying to figure out where to place the balance hole to accomplish this. Was thinking maybe the MOtion hole. Anyone want to chime
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: gradilonec on February 23, 2015, 08:33:47 AM
(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/10330477_10101189869064920_390533214584841936_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=0251aa680d2aca9fb0f9456ca65525b5&oe=5593FC2B&__gda__=1431631937_70cb49cee0eb9619d3b9e628f2fdd55d)
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: JustRico on February 23, 2015, 09:26:58 AM
Go 6.75" from the pin and 3.375" from your pap
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: gradilonec on February 23, 2015, 09:38:51 AM
Where along the val?
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: JustRico on February 23, 2015, 09:54:00 AM
Put the wright hole at a point that dissects 6.75" from the pin and 3.375" from the pap
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: tkkshop on February 23, 2015, 10:12:36 AM
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Extremely rough drawing here
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: gradilonec on February 23, 2015, 10:24:37 AM
i was thinking it would look something like that
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: lifted rillo on February 23, 2015, 10:50:19 AM
The old "double-thumb" drilling may work as well.
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: gradilonec on February 23, 2015, 10:58:08 AM
so strange that the blueprint software has the double thumb decreasing backend. . .
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: SVstar34 on February 23, 2015, 11:04:41 AM
so strange that the blueprint software has the double thumb decreasing backend. . .

When I think of the double thumb layout, I think of increasing hook, not necessarily backend as I feel it causes the ball to start up slightly earlier
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: JustRico on February 23, 2015, 11:23:20 AM
It increases flare which increases traction...traction increases overall reaction which is front to back not side to side
The weight hole I suggested increases asymmetry which increases down lane reaction
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: gradilonec on February 23, 2015, 11:32:22 AM
I'll give it a go and let you know how it goes
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: mattypizon on February 23, 2015, 11:41:29 AM
DT shortens the skid phase AND the hook phase so many times it won't result in "more backend".

Depending on your release stats a P1 may be in order. If your VAL angle is too small the ball with "stand up" and roll end over end causing a lack of "backend".

Let us know
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: kidlost2000 on February 23, 2015, 11:44:23 AM
Playing with blueprint and xhole locations in many cases on there shows them making the ball hook sooner but not more overall.  Its hard to explain,  but imagine the "L" on the lane and then adding an xhole and keeping the exact same look but shortening the "L" shape a little bit.  Shorter skid but everything else stayed the same.

I encourage everyone to go try the free trialware version. Very helpful and fun.
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: JustRico on February 23, 2015, 11:49:36 AM
Unless it's a flare reducing hole, it's going to increase flare which increases traction...this can allow the bowler to play more in the oil or conditioner to increase skid before reacting...weight hole placement - 6.75" from pin - increases adummetry thus increases movement and continuation
Placement thru numbers (distances) increases probability not possibility
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: gradilonec on February 24, 2015, 05:07:43 PM
So before doing anything I went to the lanes and had them oil up the pair.  I didnt realize how much oil the r3s pearl needed (tour pearl sle).  It came alive and as I've found with most of the iq series..I could pay just about anywhere on a ths dependant on how much rotation I gave it. 

Lol now im wondering how many other overseas releases are hidden gems
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: flapjack69 on February 28, 2015, 02:48:45 PM
Kidlost, Do you have a lik where I can find this blueprind program?

L8r Shannon
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: ccrider on March 02, 2015, 06:58:06 PM
Unless it's a flare reducing hole, it's going to increase flare which increases traction...this can allow the bowler to play more in the oil or conditioner to increase skid before reacting...weight hole placement - 6.75" from pin - increases adummetry thus increases movement and continuation
Placement thru numbers (distances) increases probability not possibility

"Adummetry?" Intentional or a freudian slip?

Rico,
How far over from the midline can you place the hole before you create problems.
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: Aloarjr810 on March 02, 2015, 07:31:50 PM
Kidlost, Do you have a lik where I can find this blueprind program?

L8r Shannon

You can get the free trial here:
http://blueprintbowling.com/ (http://blueprintbowling.com/)

Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 02, 2015, 09:53:06 PM
Kidlost, Do you have a lik where I can find this blueprind program?

L8r Shannon

You can get the free trial here:
http://blueprintbowling.com/ (http://blueprintbowling.com/)



AJ810 nailed it
Title: Re: where to place balance hole on tour pearl for more backend..maybe a motion hole?
Post by: Ken De Beasto on March 02, 2015, 10:47:39 PM
Wow did not know such things exist. sucks I'm a cheapo to try it.