Post by: john rambo on January 17, 2011, 08:14:16 AM
Why make another hook monster??????? The Original Virtual Gravity hooked!! the Invasion Hooks!!! sounds like the Virtual Gravity Nano is going to hook even more. On your typical house shot there isn't enough oil to use the super strong bowling balls and Norm Duke even said on storm's website that the tour patterns are long BUT the oil volume is thin, so my guess is they won't need anything that super hooks on tour. The only place in this country that puts out the FLOOD is the Bradley in Lexington Ky. And you know what nothing and I mean nothing is going too hook down there. Brian Himmler was throwing a brand new Theory that was dulled up and it went straight as an arrow at the Bradley. And tour guys that bowled at the Bradley said that the shark isn't even as slick as the Bradley so why make super hookers????? They are going to hook too much everywhere except at the Bradley
Post by: lsf_21 on January 17, 2011, 04:19:34 PM
Post by: john rambo on January 17, 2011, 04:25:35 PM
Typical?? huh! Typically there is no oil outside of the 10 board the USBC gives a bowler basically 10 inches of error room in that area of the lane if you play the friction everything will hook most bowlers that play in the sludge swings it to the dry anyway I bet Tiger wishes he had 10 inches of error room when he puts
Post by: john rambo on January 17, 2011, 04:28:35 PM
lsf 21
didn't mean for the rant I was just figuring that there was so many other options of releasing a ball why did they need to go super hook again
Post by: sstaz on January 17, 2011, 04:37:01 PM
Post by: john rambo on January 17, 2011, 04:46:17 PM
public request to storm? they just came out with the marvel it's a solid reactive that hooks a ton It would be different if they re-released the Virtual Gravity but you can still get them from your distributors anyway
Post by: john rambo on January 17, 2011, 04:49:29 PM
I really had my hopes high with something that was ground breaking or something that just made you have to go out and get it, something that they haven't did yet. I don't know maybe they will save all of that for the smell, lol.
Post by: urbanshaft on January 17, 2011, 04:50:22 PM
storm alot of times makes you go what
like making 50balls with r2s covers
does seems strange to make new vg after the marvel just came out and even since the prodigy hooks alot
but ill probaly pick it up :D
Post by: Raven829 on January 17, 2011, 07:23:58 PM
The ball will sell like crazy, that's why. And believe it or not, there are places that put out enough oil for their house shots for the super hookers to be not only usable, but a very good option. A lot of people in my area still throw the VG and do just fine with it.
Don
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Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on January 17, 2011, 08:27:10 PM
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Post by: River700 on January 17, 2011, 10:44:36 PM
Exactly! I'll take my hot rod or flame urethane and beat them with it..hahaha!!!
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Post by: BrunsMike on January 18, 2011, 12:14:50 AM
Okay, I don't know about your area but at the 2 main houses where I bowl at. The volume of oil has gotten greater and the pattern has actually been getting flatter as the year continues. Last year all I ever needed was a Storm Natural with pin over bridge and cg slightly right of palm center or a Storm T-Road Pearl. That was all I needed last year along with playing the lanes 20-10 give or take 2 boards. This year I found myself playing the lanes much straighter with my natural, my t-road now has some surface added and on some occasions even been using my Gravity Shift. The deepest line I've played this year has only been 18 to 10 at most with my gravity shift, my natural can play straight up 5 board all night long as long as I'm consistant. So I can see some people wanting another "hook in a box" ball. I'll bet the majority of these requests for another ball like this is coming from the majority of people who can't hook a ball no matter what. If they can, they aren't moving it much more then 5 boards then! I'm actually considering a 2nd Demention to add to my aresenal.
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Post by: Xcessive_Evil on January 18, 2011, 09:02:28 AM
+1
I stone 8s and 9s like its cool...
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Post by: jls on January 18, 2011, 03:09:53 PM
Not here sir, Our oil machines do indeed know how to lay down oil outside of 10...
jls
Post by: john rambo on January 18, 2011, 04:58:35 PM
Congratulations jls!! you don't bowl on the wall
Post by: dizzyfugu on January 18, 2011, 11:48:31 PM
And that's what sells best. It is like the pick up truck in the USA - best selling car, but, honestly, who actually NEEDS it?
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Post by: HAMMERDOWN103 on January 19, 2011, 05:27:16 PM
The problem with socialism is, you eventually run out of other people's money too...
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on January 19, 2011, 11:16:44 PM
I would have to disagree on the typical house shot being dry outside the ten board. Anymore, I find that with everyone throwing aggressive balls inside the 10 board, and as far inside as the 25 board; often the only oil to be found is outside the ten where few people now throw the "no guts, no glory" Norm Duke shot. Typically there is also quite a bit of oil to the left of the 25 board but being a rightly that is less useful to me on the first ball - but worth knowing on spare shots.
Edited by Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on 1/20/2011 at 0:21 AM
Post by: J_w73 on January 20, 2011, 12:18:37 PM
Isn't the marvel just a symmetrical VG with a different grit.. not entirely the same but I bet for most people it will roll the same given that most people layout asymmetricals so that the MB pretty much has no effect on the reaction.
Put a double thumb drilling on the marvel and take it to 4000 and you have yourself a VG..
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Post by: urbanshaft on January 21, 2011, 03:27:43 PM
marvel is a dimension a board stronger if that
hank on extra frame said the new vg will miss the headpin left compared to the vg striking
so holy jebus hookmonster
Post by: J_w73 on January 21, 2011, 04:58:25 PM
So is that due to the core difference between the Marvel and VG.. The Marvel has the same coverstock as the VG.. right?? Just symmetrical vs Asymmetrical...
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Post by: urbanshaft on January 21, 2011, 05:18:23 PM
just watch videos of the vg vs dimension
really gona be the exact same thing with vg vs marvel