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Eoff

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Modern Marvel Review
« on: February 08, 2012, 01:50:33 AM »

Bowler Info:

PAP – 5.5 over 7/8 up
RPM – 475
MPH – 19 
 

The Modern Marvel is a hybrid of the Marvel and Marvel Pearl using the R2X hybrid cover.  I drilled the Modern Marvel the same as my Marvel Pearl with the pin above my middle finger and the CG slightly kicked out.  The Modern Marvel did not need a balance hole so I chose to leave it without one.  I left it at box finish as well.

 

I was excited for this ball because I have recently had a lot of success with the Marvel Pearl and figured this would be a nice compliment when that was too skid/flippy.  Both Marvels roll really good for me, so I figured this one had to as well.

 

My first three games out of the box with the Modern Marvel were all above 250 (two different bowling centers).  I was surprised at how much it hooked, but it didn’t have any problems getting through the front like the Marvel sometimes did.  I have used it on a few different patterns and on Brunswick and AMF synthetics.  What surprised me the most was my ability to get deeper inside and not lose entry angle.  As strong as the ball is, normally when I am forced to move left I have to ball down, but I did not have to with this one.  It still got through the front of the lane clean enough to maintain hitting power down lane. 

 

The Modern Marvel will be a great benchmark ball that can be used on a variety of patterns.  It will be the first ball out of my bag and allow me to see what the pattern is doing and adjust accordingly.  Ideally it will be for heavier patterns or flatter patterns such as the Masters and Open Championships when you need to control the break point but maintain hitting power.  

 
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strykalot

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Re: Modern Marvel Review
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2012, 07:11:36 PM »
Derek, how would you compare Marvel to the Modern Marvel? 

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Eoff

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Re: Modern Marvel Review
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 07:09:27 AM »
The Marvel is earlier and smoother.  I could only use my Marvel on fresh patterns for about a game or so before I had to go to something that got through the fronts better.  I have been able to use the Modern Marvel longer and keep moving left.  The Modern Marvel gets through the front cleaner and retains more energy down lane.  


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Re: Modern Marvel Review
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 01:06:31 AM »
Quick question about the Marvel.  If the CG were in the negative position would you be able to use it longer than a game on the fresh?  And would that defeat the purpose of the ball?  I am a left hander and I came across a right handed drilled one and the cg is slightly kicked out and I was thinking of keeping the same layout.   I have a hyroad drilled that way and it's very controllable.  My intention is to use the marvel on the fresh at the usbc open this year.
 
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Re: Modern Marvel Review
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 05:20:56 AM »
If it doesn't have a weight hole, cg position don't really matter too much


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Re: Modern Marvel Review
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 08:22:18 AM »
I have drilled some balls in the past with the cg left of my center of grip, doing that smooths out the ball reaction.  I normally would only use that on short patterns or medium patterns that require a lot of control down lane.  With the right ball, that layout could be good at the Open Championships this year.  I personally would not use it on a Marvel because that ball is already smooth for me.  For me, it would work better on a Victory Road Solid or even a Crossroad. 


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Re: Modern Marvel Review
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 12:43:01 AM »
Thanks for the update.  Since it's that smooth I will go for a standard drilling.  I have one more question and this concerns the hyroad.  How smooth is that ball with the standard drillings with pin up or down?   My hyroad is oob and with the cg in the negative position it still quite strong on the backend and it appears to read the mids in a controllable fashion.  Is that what you would expect from the drilling?
 
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Re: Modern Marvel Review
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 06:21:55 AM »
If the pin is up you can expect a pretty good move downlane with no hole.  CG placement really doesn't matter by itself, as when you drill a symmetrical ball the thumbhole becomes the PSA.  If you put a weighthole in the ball it changes the dynamics much more.  Where is the CG in relation to the grip (meaning is it closer to the fingers or thumb)?  If you have some finger weight you could try drilling the fingers deeper, which in effect would mimic a p1 weighthole and cut down on some hook potential.  The rest you could do with a touch of surface, meaning take it down to 1000 and then hit it with 4000 to knock down some of the downlane move.
 
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r534me

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Re: Modern Marvel Review
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 11:49:52 PM »
Russell, 
 
Thanks for the info.  I've attached a picture of the ball.  It might look like a normal drilling for a right hander and it is.  Hoever, I am left handed. :)
 
The surface adjustment was suggested to me this afternoon.  It's exactly the same as you stated.  Good confirmation.  My driller watched me toss it yesterday and he was surprised it had the backend it did.  I am not sure I like it that way or not.  I need to toss it on some sport conditions and then decide because it's suppose to be a benchmark ball.  
Specs - PAP 5 1/4 over 1 1/8 up;  speed 18 +;  rev rate=maybe med to high 300's  sometimes low 400's  on a good day.  Not really sure of my tilt but I can vary it.
 
 

 
 
Edited by r534me on 2/24/2012 at 4:32 AM

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Re: Modern Marvel Review
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2012, 05:48:03 AM »
Surface is so important to ball motion...I would definitely tinker with that first.  The R2S hybrid is a fantastic cover for surface changes.  It responds really well to just about any surface within reason.  When I was bowling more I carried 2 Hyroads in my bag, one shiny pin up with no hole, and one pin down and kept at 2000.  The 2 balls were totally different, and both rolled fantastic. 

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Re: Modern Marvel Review
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2012, 11:01:14 AM »
Thanks for the suggestion.  I am going to roll it in a few more conditions before I change it.