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BrianCRX90

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Yes! I finnaly got an El Nino!
« on: February 17, 2007, 11:58:54 AM »
Normally I wouldn't care to spend the money for a used, older ball but this ball is one of the exceptions.This was one of my favorite balls in the late 90's. Only my 3rd reactive ever had and when I saw Brian Himmler and Robert Smith bowl with this ball I had to have it. It had such an aggressive, early reaction and at the time made my Brunswick Danger Zone look like a pearlized urethane! I got rid of the ball and sold it to a guy along with 2 other balls only because they were 14 pounds and moved to 15. How I wish they would have reissue this ball in the exact model.

For years I've been attempting to get a NIB in a 15 with this and nearly impossible. I came close on eBay but got outbid everytime. Last few times I found a used one all in good shape but some people like to do what I do and outbid at the last second. So this time I just bid and put another 5 dollars to attempt to make sure my bid. Fresh resurface and won it for 30 bucks.


 

greenefam

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Re: Yes! I finnaly got an El Nino!
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2007, 10:57:16 PM »
Uh, dude, they just reissued the El Nino as the El Nino Returns.  You could get a brand new one if you wanted one that bad.

http://www.cheapbowlingballs.com/bowling_balls/storm/el_nino_returns.php

BrianCRX90

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Re: Yes! I finnaly got an El Nino!
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2007, 10:56:43 AM »
That El Nino Returns is not the same ball as the original. I belive it's closer to the 2000 version.

laner7pin

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Re: Yes! I finnaly got an El Nino!
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 11:16:26 AM »
El Nino returns has an "aggressive" reactive cover where the original had Curelyon 2 solid (not sure if they are the same or not). ALso the core shape is the same but the numbers are different:
El Nino Original from 98:
2.490 RG
.065 Differential

El Nino Returns:
2.470 RG
.052 Differential

Similar but not the same, El Nino 2000 was a particle pearl with a different core.
I had 3 El Ninos all of them were great balls (I almost bid on the 15lber on ebay recently as well).

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greenefam

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Re: Yes! I finnaly got an El Nino!
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 03:37:59 PM »
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greenefam,
if i remember, isn't the original el nino solid? if so, it cant be a remake since the el nino returns is pearl..



The original El Nino was a solid - solid Curelyon2 which by today's standards would be a relatively mild solid.  The El Nino Returns is a 1000 grit pearl with the same core.  Personally I'd go with that over a resurfaced 9 year old ball.  I think you will get darn close to the original's look especially with the advances in lane oils over a 9 year period.

 
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That El Nino Returns is not the same ball as the original. I belive it's closer to the 2000 version.


I really can't see how.  An updated sanded pearl reactive as compared to a light load polished Accu-tread particle is really apples and oranges.  The El Nino Gold may be a closer comparison but again it is a solid vs. a pearl.  At least in this comparison they are both box 1000 grit finish.

Personally if I had a longing for an older ball (as I do with the original Eraser) I'd either find someone hiding an new in box ball in a closet or I'd be just as happy for the company to come out with a remake (see AMF Nighthawk, Roto-Grip SD-73, El Nino Returns, etc.).  The remake may not be exactly the same ball but I would venture a guess that the remake will take newer lane conditions into account much better than a used ball.  Brian, I hope you are happy with the resurfaced ball I am just expressing the opinion that given a choice I'd go with the El Nino Returns.

FYI, 14lb on eBay -

http://cgi.ebay.com/NIB-Storm-El-Nino-14lbs-BIG-H-K-ORIGINAL_W0QQitemZ160077591514QQihZ006QQcategoryZ36104QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Edited on 2/18/2007 9:06 PM

Spider Ball Bowler

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Re: Yes! I finnaly got an El Nino!
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2007, 03:42:45 PM »
A seller on eBay has the ORIGINAL EL NINO in his store in both 15 and 16 lbs.  Can't remember the name of the seller, but just do a search for EL NINO in bowling balls and it will come up.
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cficare068

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Re: Yes! I finnaly got an El Nino!
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2007, 11:47:23 PM »
Wonder if the El Nino returns is closer to the El Nino Wrath

BrianCRX90

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Re: Yes! I finnaly got an El Nino!
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2007, 09:05:51 PM »
Boy I'm glad I got this ball. Aside from the pro shop driller messing up and drilling me grips insted of fingertip drilled (miscomunication), the ball was as great as I remembered it. Shot my second perfect game in league tonight with it. Worked great on the short oil pattern and really could cover some boards with it.