Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
High tech with a smaller price tag. That's what you get with the Havoc. The Havoc is the first mass bias technology ball in the Track line that is NOT at the high performance price point. The Havoc's Horizontally Biased Plate (HBP) technology allows for a wider range of motion when the mass bias is placed in different locations. HBP technology and Havoc's Power Plus coverstock create an ideal benchmark ball for all styles of play.
Wreak Havoc on the lanes.
Havoc Specs
Hook Rating 29-20
Length 6
Backend 6
Core Technology Horizontally Biased Plate
Core Power 7
RG 2.5
Differential 0.43
Determinator Spin Time 11
Flare Potential 5
Coverstock Power Plus Solid
Friction Rating 6.5
Finish 1500 Smooth
Polish Magic Shine
Reaction Shape Strong Arc
Lane Condition Medium to Light Oil
Post by: Deadbait on January 25, 2004, 12:09:19 AM
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Post by: Precision on February 09, 2004, 03:54:28 PM
Drilled 1/30/2004
The ball being drilled was 2†pin out with 3.50 oz top weight. Top weight and CG location were verified via scale prior to drilling.
The drilling chosen was pin 5†from PAP and Mb 4.125†from PAP (55 degrees); pin is below fingers 1.75 inches above grip midline.
After drilling the ball was weighed at 0.75 oz positive side weight, 0.25 positive finger weight and 1.50 oz top weight. No weight hole was used.
Bowler Information:
Track diameter is 10.25â€.
PAP is measured at 5.375 over and 0 up/down.
Average ball speed (foul line to head pin) is 17 mph.
Axis rotation is typically 45 degrees
Initial rev rate is typically 350 rpm
The first condition the ball was used on was a 42-foot typical wet/dry house pattern on HPL 2000 synthetic lanes. On this condition the ball played very well inside the oil line with the box surface but didn’t match up well when sent outside the oil line. A trip to the spinner and a light application of polish gave the ball more versatility on this pattern. After the application of polish the ball still worked very well inside the pattern and didn’t bleed energy as fast as the box surface when sent outside the pattern providing much more punch at the pins. Ball reaction was very easy to read and predictable which made reading the pattern easy. The Havoc welcomed changes in ball speed, hand position and rev rate. These properties make the Havoc a first ball out of the bag type of versatile ball that made me feel sure I’d be getting a lot of use from. Since this initial test I’ve used the ball on Pro-Anvilane and HPL’s with a lighter pattern at another center and loved the reaction each time.
Post by: STNCLD on February 17, 2004, 12:02:40 PM
Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on March 06, 2004, 04:05:14 PM
Willie Willis ball was set up with the pin about the ring finger, and the mass bias in the strong position. On a freshly oiled house shot, this ball was clean through the heads, while reving up. Mr. Willis found this ball to have great midlane control and found the ball to be even better with Wet/Dry lane conditons. Willie was able to move inside and outside with this ball and still have a consistant reaction throughout. He also found this ball to be consistent from thestart of the night to the finish.
The second person that we drilled for was a left hander with medium ball speed. I laid this ball out the same as a Nighthawk Menace that he loved. The pin was beside his ring finger and the mass bias was in the strong position. This bowler found the ball to clean through the front, reving up in the midlane and making a strong arcing move to the pocket.
After watching both of these bowlers, this ball will be the first ball out of most people's bag. You will be able to read the lane condition easily, and make any adjustments.
If you have any questions, please email me.
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Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on March 25, 2004, 02:29:41 AM
It read the mids and was very smooth at the breakpoint but the breakpoint was so early. This ball easily outhooked my Raging Inferno. It hit hard, and when thrown good never left me a corner pin.
Hook: LOTS OF IT, 8.5/10
Controll: SMOOTH, 9/10
Backend: with this drilling not very sharp 7/10
OVERALL: Very good ball at a very good price tag. If you want high performance in the mid price range, GET THE HAVOC. 8/10
Post by: romchip on March 30, 2004, 11:28:17 AM
Nope.
This cover is NOT for medium to dry conditions. This cover is WAY TOO STRONG for the core. Hey Del, have somebody with some hand throw these things before you release them. I've drilled the Freak, Unleashed, Phenom, Crunch, CrunchTime, Thrash, Triple Threat, Havoc, and Animal in the last year for myself. NONE of them are currently in my bag. Animal, Freak, Phenom, Unleashed, Triple Threat, and Havoc are all great balls if you like all of your energy burnt in the first 40 feet. The Crunch hooks more than any of these pieces on normal league patterns, and the CrunchTime and Thrash are victims of the dreaded "silver pearl" skid disease. If I want a readable piece, I reach for something with an "S" or "B" on the side.
I absolutely loved the SLAM series as well but I'm assuming that the Crash will be cover-dominated like the rest. I'll avoid that train wreck and drill some more Storm stuff.
On a scale of 1 to 10, I give it a 6. It may not be a bad piece but it was poorly marketed and heavily mis-advertised. Get it straight guys. You've been in the business long enough to figure out that we're not all idiots.
Post by: OG1 on April 11, 2004, 07:44:24 PM
Hi Rev 440 rpm
axis tilt 10º-15º
ball speed 21mph
PAP 5.675 and 1/2 up
Drilling
pin 4.5" to PAP
CG 4.5" to PAP
mass bias in the strong position
Surface
box finish
Condition
41' pattern very heavy in the middle 10-10 no buff
Review
All I can say is wow this ball is a true winner for the high rev player.....
This ball has good length it displays a strong continous motion but for me it flares over 9". This ball is very versatile it can be played down the boards or you can play in the mud. This ball hits like a tank just vacuums the corners off the deck. Can't wait for the pearl..... another winner from track
I would rate this ball a 9 out of 10
Post by: KULAYGATAS on April 28, 2004, 03:16:50 AM
This is the first Track ball that I have drilled since the Heat II. I have to say I am impressed with this ball. Here is what I did.
Ball Specs: 15lb 2oz
3" pin out
Layout: Pin 5 1/8 from PAP above fingers on the grip centerline. MB 1 1/2 right of the centerline. Track pin #2 and mb #2 in the drill sheet.
Cover: polished with storm #3 compound to 2500.
My Specs: PAP 5 3/4>, 7/8^
Axis Tilt 10 to 15 degrees
Axis rotation 45 degrees
Ball speed 17 mph
Rev rate 320 to 350
Lane Condition: medium.
Here is my opinion.I drilled this ball to go long and snap. When I first threw it I was a little surprised at how early it read the lane considering I had polished it. Well I threw it for a while the get a read on it. Played in going from about 20 to about 7 at the break point. It recovered, but not like I had hoped. Because of the early read.I continued to throw it to see where and how it would work the best. Best on that day was 15 to 10 at the break point with ball speed at around 20 mph. Later that night in league I went to it because the pearl paricle I mostly use was not reacting the way the condition usually allows. Well I squeezed out 230 that game and went 250 the second and the front 9 the third for 279. The hit and carry are real solid. Threw it again tonight and what a difference. Tonight it had the backend I had drilled it for.Probably because I was on an end pair. All in all I am very satisfied with this ball. By the way with this drilling and being a tweeneer I was getting 5" track flare. I think this is a good ball to go to when the particle balls burn early.
Post by: arcright7 on June 27, 2004, 02:39:12 AM
Post by: Brunswickroller19 on September 18, 2004, 02:20:33 PM
I am a tweener and can be a cranker(depends on lanes) i use box finish. This ball can be tricky at times cause i can play head pin shot and blow rack but if i send it inside out to drew it will check up real earlier but with great carry. But it is very aggresive and controllable might take it down to 1200 and add a light application of polish. Overall great ball
Post by: towncryer on January 12, 2005, 05:02:23 PM
This thing is a rocket to the pocket. It allows my to play up the 10 board with ample hand and WOW. I swear it has more backend than my Mother-in-law. (and that's a lot) I've just ordered another one which I'll leave in box condition and see how it works on a fresh shot.
Ball specs 15# 3" pin (mirror finish)highly polished
my specs- span 5 1/4 15mph med/revs
This is the sleeper ball of 04' hands down.
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Post by: gamercc on March 10, 2005, 02:38:31 AM
Post by: MSC2471 on July 11, 2005, 05:17:16 AM
Style: Stroker
Speed: Between 17.53-18.18 MPH at hand release, 18.18 MPH at pin deck
Revs: between 232.5-247.5 RPM
PAP: 3 ¾ over, 7/8 up
Axis Tilt: 24 degrees
Axis Rotation: unknown to date
Weight (pre-drill): 15 lbs., 3 oz.
Top Weight (pre-drill): 3 oz
Pin to CG distance: 5â€
Surface Prep: left in box condition
Drilling:
Pin to PAP distance: 4â€, MB placed right of the thumb 6 ½†from PAP, pin above fingers 2 ½†above the midline
Conditions bowled on:
1) 35 foot top hat on an all wood surface- heavier concentration inside of 10 (probably 65 units) than outside of 10 (probably 6 to 8 units) placed down with the latest Phoenix lane walker. Strong, clean back ends, strong side wall action.
2) Various sport patterns in my summer sport challenge league on Brunswick Pro Anvilane synthetic surface. 34 foot pattern has 80 units on boards 1-10 at the end of the pattern, 65 units from 11-11. 41’ pattern has 28 units from boards 1-10 at the end of the pattern, 45 units from 11-11. 45’ pattern has 28 units from boards 1-10 at the end of the pattern, 45 units from 11-11.
Description:
I picked up the Havoc per recommendation of my bowling coach, as he looked at my arsenal and saw that I was missing a piece that could be a benchmark ball to read most lane conditions while still being a decent even arcing piece that would not overreact off the drier portions of the lanes. I completely agree with this assessment based on my first 20-30 games with this ball. I’ve used it exclusively for the past 3 weeks in my Monday night league (condition 1). I’m able to play right up the oil line if I wish (say 12-6) or even play more up the dry (8-4) and not experience much of an over/under reaction like I was with other stronger equipment such as the Absolute Inferno or Rule. This ball is quick to tell you if the conditions warrant its need to be put back in the bag. At a recent scratch tournament I realized within the 1st game that it was laboring to make the turn playing on a heavier modified house shot (15-8), so I quickly moved to my Absolute Inferno after trying a couple of different lines/hand positions to equally struggle to maintain decent ball reaction. On the various patterns thrown at this summer for condition 2 sport shots, the Havoc really shines. The shorter 34’ pattern allowed me to play a tighter 15-12 line while not ripping the end of the pattern hard, as all my other equipment wanted to make a right hand turn instantly (Rule, Slash, Absolute Inferno, Animal, Hot Wire). If I was willing to cover more area I could play 20-10 as well on this pattern but I had to be sure I had more hand in the ball as well as a mph or 2 slower ball speed to recover to the pocket adequately. On the 41’ and 45’ patterns I was able to play straight down and in tight inside of 2nd arrow with no loss of energy and great hitting power.
Based on the literature I’ve read from Track on the Havoc, this ball can handle more medium shots than the medium-light that was originally advertised, but that doesn’t matter to me. I’ve got a great mid-priced offering that scores and acts like most of my high performance equipment, and gives me a great even read on the lanes. Don’t be afraid to scoop one up if you can find any NIB, as I haven’t been so happy with an underrated ball since the time I picked up my Hot Wire. Thanks again Track for putting out a stellar piece for the consumer.
Post by: AdrianS on August 22, 2005, 11:35:30 PM
pin 2-3" out
top 3oz
drilling
Pin above ring finger, cg just below, X-hole above pap to get the statics down
surface-box
Normally i would have plugged this ball before using it because of the drilling but with the clean and sheen surface i find it quite usable. As yet i haven't used it on a wide open condition as our house is running the buff out to 42ft with outside 10 being OB. With the box surface it still usable as long as open play hasn't made a sploge of carrydown on the backend. The backend reaction is a little arcier and weaker than my Heat. Swinging from 25 to around 15 and holding the pocket gives me a playable look. On a wide open wall this backend move should make it easy to avoid over under. Once the Phenom gets in the bag this ball will make a good fallback along with the Heat and Code Red SE once the lanes get a little dry for the big banana stuff. One of these with my favourite 10.30 Drill could be my dream ball so a search for another one might be in order(or a trip to the shop with my SE's taking that spot in the bag)
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Post by: SteveAustin2808 on October 14, 2005, 02:20:03 AM
Weight: 15#
Pin: 3"
Top Weight: N/A
Layout:
Pin Below Ring Finger. CG kicked out slightly. Mass Bias at 5 o'clock and no weight hole was required.
Purchased this one from Clint Daley on here, I highly recommend him if you are seeking any old equipment from Track. I have been throwing this ball for about three weeks and I pretty much have it figured out. The ball likes to roll out, but as long as I am smooth and do NOT try to over power the ball, it will make a smooth turn back to the pocket. I chose the Pin Below Ring Finger layout because here lately I have not been that consistent. I decided to punch this ball up like this along with my Arsenal Reactive and have turned some heads in the past few weeks! This ball rolls through the heads longer than I thought it would. I thought since this was a solid shell it would react quicker, but even with the Mass Bias asymmetric core it goes long! Fits above the X-Ception and below the Arsenal Reactive. Has a place in the bag for league nights, and is very condition specific. If the heads are flooded, the ball will NOT come back, and if the heads are too dry, it will over re-act. Best condition so far is medium oil to medium! Great piece for the price I got it for! If you can find one, and are lacking something solid to use on medium conditions, you can literally WREAK HAVOC on the lanes with this ball!
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Post by: AdrianS on November 28, 2005, 11:46:39 PM
Got a little tired of this thing being a little too tame and threw a good old fashioned stack leverage drill on it. Took it out on our fresh shot last night and found the thing going way straight still, BURN!!! whoops!!! So today it was bye bye box finish and hello magic shine. Result-this ball has really come to life, Threw it on the same line as i finished on last night with my old Combat Zone(25 to 10 at the break) and found this much cleaner thru the heads and smoother at the break with almost the same amount of boards covered, plus some hold to the left which those early revving Zones dont give you on a medium/light oil condition(What would have been a brooklyn hit with the Zone settled in trip 4 territory at the pins and dug it out!) Love the shape of the reaction i'm getting. This ball may have done the unthinkable and retired the Heat from tournament duty. Might try this Layout and surface on a Freakazoid next to fill out my medium condition gear for next yr.
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Post by: kingofstrikes15 on December 18, 2006, 08:35:56 PM
label leverage had ball for a week and it is great first time got a 561 50 over average ball is awesome if u can find i would buy it.
Post by: mainzer on May 07, 2008, 03:13:38 PM
SPECS: Picked this up from Strider great transaction BTW. Ball is drilled pin next to fingers MB out 3 inches balancing hole was needed due to the CG being in a weird spot. Ball is about 1000 Abralon.
HOUSE 1: Synthetics lighter oil in the heads with more in the midlane and mild amount of oil outside 10. Usually this pattern takes backend away, the house in question is trying to lower scores with this pattern and is doing a good job of it. Enter my Havoc. Had a hard time finding a line at first then I moved my shot more inside and swung it a bit about 15 at the arrows seven at the break and break point was at about 42-44 feet crushing the pins on this line. Started bringing myself left farther kept the break point and still had the pocket, moved the break point inside and still had the pocket with the ten pin going late. On this pattern the ball created great area more than most of the modern gear being used. surprising Length and carrying power for being so deep with a older ball.
PBA CHEETAH: on older wood lanes, Grabbed Havoc and experimented a bit. usually I use HPP or Flip with control drillings and play ten to five or something like that Havoc was to strong for that got LEFT! 27 at the arrows way out to 7 really steep line to get it to the break point, I didn't think it was going to make it back but it flushed really hard and I had a great line for 3 games then I started burning out the heads and I lost reaction and moving left made it very difficult to get the ball past the middle without it setting to early. This would not be my first choice on this pattern but I will go to it if my first choice doesn't work.
HIT/CARRY/READ: Is pretty good, doesn't hit to hard so pins stay low nothing goes up in the air lots of messengers are tossed around. On the THS it reads very smooth no snap at all however on the PBA/SPORT patterns this ball can be a challenge to handle very quick off friction surprisingly snappy but when it is used to to play deeper it is somewhat easier but not much I have been taking some hand out of it to mellow reaction.
OVERALL: Good for the THS consistent and can be used lots of different situations. On tougher patterns however it is very shot specific if you have to cover lots of boards later on the lane it is good but if you need control take something else out out the bag.
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