Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Core: Shuttle
Finish: Polished
Color: Blue/Black All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
Reaction: Skid/Flip
Recommended Lane Condition: Medium to Heavy Oil
Description: Kinetic relates to the motion of material bodies and the forces and energy associated there within. Kinetic features a newly-designed low mass bias core called Shuttle and a new vaneer called UMP GEN 1. The best way to describe Kinetic''s motion is simply Skid/Flip. Using a low mass bias designed core shape we have created a ball that is great for medium to heavy conditions and works well when you need to get the ball to flip on the backend.
Post by: Use2begood on August 27, 2007, 05:30:37 PM
17-19 MPH
Pin - 5" from axis
Cg @ 45 degrees no hole
Surface 2000 Abralon.
Drilled this up last Thursday for PBA regional which was bowled on the Shark pattern.
I really wasn't going to use it cause I didn't get a chance to try it before hand. I tried a few other balls during my 15 min of warm up and really didn't see anything that excited me or made me comfortable, so I decided to try the Kinetic. Well I ended up using it for the first 6 games. The reason I decided to use it was because of the margin for error I created at my breakpoint. Other balls didn't read the mid lane enough to create area at the breakpoint. I was also very impressed with the continuation of the ball through the pin deck. In my opinion this type of reaction creates a wider pocket, where the off hits carry percentage is much better.
Congrat's to Track for starting over again with a winner!
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Post by: Billy Ray on September 02, 2007, 10:00:56 AM
Power Tweener 15.5-16.5 Mph downlane speed.
Drilled Kinetic #1 4 1/2" Pin to PAP (Pin Up) MB at 60 degrees.(about an 1" right of thumb) No extra Hole.
Drilled Kinetic #2 4" Pin to PAP (Pin Down) MB at 45 Degrees. No Hole.
Kinetic #2 was designed to be my fresh league shot Ball to start the night with. a pin down out of box version to help control the backends a bit but still have some decent pop downlane as we bowl on an older wood house on a 46' league pattern.( Our league pattern is not the THS for the center, it has a higher volume of oil overall across the lane and less bumper right of 10.)
Kinetic #1 was designed to give me more length and downlane pop when i have to chase the oil left.
Both balls performed admirably and I was impressed with the ease that the ball gets through the fronts even after the heads start to go away. The hit of both balls was impressive also from just about any angle of the lane I played on. I used them first night of league and started with the Pin Down ball and played around 15 bumping the track down the lane. Shot 215 238 the first two games with this ball. As the heads went away I changed to the pin up Kinetic and chased in around 18-20 bumping the track down the lane and got a very nice reaction back to the pocket and shot 258 253 the last two games for a 964 total and not too bad for not touching a ball for two months. One missed 10 pin was the only open of the night.
I am looking forward to drilling another one with a little surface and probably a pin down/hole down drilling for a longer or higher volume of oil to get it to start up earlier.
Overall I think this ball is a winner for alot of different styles of bowlers. The easy length and very nice pop on the backend will impress even the old school Track bowlers as well as people maybe looking to make a change!
I think this was the perfect first release for Track. Upper-Mid Price ball with High End performance!
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Billy Ray
Track Pro Staff
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Post by: Guined on September 07, 2007, 12:20:22 PM
Pin 5" to PAP, MB at 45° pin 1/2" from my VAL and no extra hole.
Ball very clean through the fronts, amazing reaction off the spot and hits like a truck.
first three games with no warm up: 268, 267, 280 for 815
The Kinetic made the lanes look stupid easy.
Go get one!!
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Rick Guined
Track Regional Staff Member
Vise PBA Regional Staff Member
Post by: minimum bob on September 17, 2007, 02:09:51 AM
Me: Low- to mid-range tweener; 250 - 300 RPM; low track; high tilt; around 15 MPH.
My Kinetic: OOB cover; 4 x 4.25; pin 3.25 above midline.
Tried the ball on Sunday afternoon lanes with fried heads. My Kinetic is very clean through the heads and reads the mid-lane extremely well. The ball makes a very strong flip move off the spot and hits like a freight train. Best of all, the Kinetic is exceedingly forgiving of user error. My release can be a little off and the ball still picks up a nice roll in the mids, makes a nice turn in the back end and carries well. This ball gives me tremendous margin for error and is just freakin' impressive. I was ready to hate Track (in fact, part of me was hoping to hate Track), but the Kinetic is too good to allow that. Well done, guys.
Bob
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My ball speed is 14 MPH...and I'm speed dominant....
Post by: Strapper_Squared on November 02, 2007, 01:36:22 PM
Photo of Kinetic (http://"http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6893567")
I drilled up a Kinetic a few weeks ago with the intentions of having a nice skid/flip ball to use on typical THS league conditions. I was looking for something that would easily get down the lane on medium oil conditions and make a strong turn on the backend. I watched a number of videos posted online (both here, youtube, and some of the online shops) and generally liked that I saw.
I drilled the ball with the pin 4" from my PAP and the MB 4 3/4" from my PAP with a 1.5" pin buffer (pin ended around 2" above my fingers, MB about 1" right of thumb hole) and a small weight hole on my PAP. For the first series of tests, I left the ball in box condition.
My initial trial of the ball was on a fresh medium/heavy oil house shot 38' buffed to 41' with a little hang on the outsides (hpl synthetics). I loosened up with my spare ball a few frames, then pulled out my Rampage to get a "base-line". As pretty typical, I targeted around 13 at the arrows and swung the ball out to around 5-6 board at the break point. Easy length and a strong move off the dry with the Rampage.
I pulled out my new Kinetic (first time throwing it) and hit the same line. The ball shot through the heads with ease (exactly what I was looking for). The ball continued through the midlane area without showing any signs of starting (starting to get worried, but was waiting for the big finish). And the ball continued to shoot through the breakpoint, making what I would consider a mild turn to smash the 3-6 pocket (did seem to throw some pins around, but just never even tried to make it back to the pocket). I threw a couple more shots with it, just to make sure it wasn't me (the definition of insanity..repeating the same process and expecting different results) and ended with the same results.
Based upon this finding, I started adjusting... moving right w/ my feet & target. I ended up throwing around 7 at the arrows out to around 5 at the breakpoint (squared up about 6 boards at the arrows compared to my Rampage) and the ball would make a hard, but by no means angular, move to the pocket. I noticed that if I missed a little outside of 5 at the BP, the ball would just hang sail past the pocket. A small miss inside and the ball would run high.
For comparison again, I pulled out my Neptune (drilled very mild), and threw the same line. The Neptune got a little more length (less midlane reaction than the Kinetic), and had a much more angular backend reaction.
After a couple initial games with the box finish, the Kinetic has been quite unimpressive for me. The ball does get lots of length, but has a very mellow backend type reaction. It reminds me of the backend I would get from an old ball with 1000 games on it.. it will hook, but nothing I can just pitch right and know that it will come up.... more of a "if I hit the correct breakpoint, the ball will make its way back to the pocket for me" type of reaction.
The next logical step is to start adjusting the surface of the ball. I was subbing in a different house the following week that generally puts down a little more oil. They just recently installed synthetic lanes (not sure on the type, but appear to be hpls as well) and usually play a little tighter. Wanting to get few more games on the kinetic, I adjusted the coverstock to 1000 grit abralon and headed out to league.
Initially during warm ups, it appeared as if I had found my answer. I really had a great look through warm-ups and about the first 6 frames. I was throwing around 12,13,14 at the arrows and as long as I got the ball out to the 5 board or a little further at the break point, I would get a strong move back to the pocket and a nice strong hit. After about 6 frames, the lanes began to transition some and it was back to "more of the same" for me. If I stayed on the same line with a little weaker release/more speed, the ball hit flat and left a 10 pin. When I moved in a few boards deeper to catch a little more oil, the ball went a little too long and came in behind the head pin and left a 10 pin. Over/under type of reaction and I put it away.
The following week during my PBA experience league, we were bowling on the Viper pattern. The previous weeks I had a decent look on this pattern throwing my Rampage and later my Neptune playing towards the outside part of the lane, but several bowlers have been shooting big scores by getting a little deeper on the lane. I decided to try the Kinetic out again. Since I knew the 1000 grit surface would just be too much, I adjusted it to 2000 grit abralon, no polish. The first game, I started out targeting 13 at the arrows out to around 5 down the lane. If I got it out early, it wouldn't recover, but as long as I kept it on line, I was able to get back to the pocket. I had so-so carry, but the ball was playable. Moved pairs after the first game and found that the lanes were quite a bit tighter than the previous pair (along with being different from right to left lane). Staying with the Kinetic, I moved in a little deeper on the lane and slowed down the speed quite a bit. I ended up playing 13 at the arrows out to around 5 on the left lane and 17 out to around 10 on the right. Again, if I could hit the line, I was able to get back to the pocket, but really had very little area. I would call the ball serviceable, but not great.
As a last attempt to find a reaction that I liked a little better, I took the cover to 500 grit and hit it with Jimdex polish. The ball rolled quite similar to the box finish for me.. lots on length and not much on the backend.
I don't necessarily think that the Kinetic is a bad ball.. as I saw a bunch of folks online make the ball look super, but I do think that it is a condition specific ball. For me, most of the time the reaction I got out of the kinetic was very over/under. Even with a range of surface preparations, I just never seemed to match up well with this ball. Maybe with a different layout I would have had a little more success, but for me the ball just didn't roll well.
S^2
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Post by: mpwebber on November 11, 2007, 12:27:51 AM
This ball was stronger than almost everything I have in my arsenal.
3 boards more total hook than the Power Machine, 5 boards more than my Equation, 8 boards more than my Equation^2. The only ball that covered more total boards was my Inertia with a 500 grit Abralon finish, but the Inertia with this finish is strong mid-lane with very smooth backend.
The majority of the Kinetic's hook comes on the backend. Through the front part of the lane it reacts similar to the Equation - very clean with good length. But when this ball bumps into dry boards (to the right or on the backend) it will jump left. I bowl at several houses that have very clean backends and at these bowling centers it looks like somebody kicked the ball sideways when it leaves the oil.
For the most part I really like the overall reaction in this ball. On some of the house shots where the dry to the right gets very dry I have to put this ball away due to typical over/under reactions high-rev players get in these situations. I think this ball could be made to work with a tamer layout and duller finish, but the Rising will fill that situation just fine.
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Michael
McCorveys Pro Shop (http://"http://www.mccorveysproshop.com/")
Track Amateur/Pro Shop Staff (http://"http://www.trackbowling.com/")
Post by: BowlPro on November 20, 2007, 01:42:56 AM
What Track says about this ball:
Kinetic relates to the motion of material bodies and the forces and energy associated there within. Kinetic features a newly-designed low mass bias core called Shuttle and a new veneer called UMP GEN 1. The best way to describe Kinetic's motion is simply Skid/Flip. Using a low mass bias designed core shape we have created a ball that is great for medium to heavy conditions and works well when you need to get the ball to flip on the backend.
What we say about this ball:
The new Track Kinetic is the very first entry from Track/Ebonite. This ball demonstrates all the characteristics that any bowler would want in a ball’s performance -- control, adaptability, hook, and devastating power.
Track defines the Kinetic’s reaction as “skid/flipâ€. I believe that most bowlers will not see a true skid/flip ball reaction. We tested the Kinetic on a normal house condition, attempting to get a Skid/Flip reaction we ended up with a controlled change of direction or what I would define as a more angular backend hook reaction.
As a tweener, this ball provided a strong and controlled arcing hook. Rated for medium to heavy oil, this ball showed its ability to get mid-lane traction and set up early. If you are not afraid to follow the oil line inside and give this ball some room you can keep it in play most of the evening during typical league play situations. If your feet are nailed to the boards and you cannot move inside, this ball will become very condition sensitive. It will be one of those balls that will have one good game in it before it has to be sent back to your bowling bag. This ball needs oil to perform at its best. If you mismatch this cover’s strength to the lane condition, you will get a DOA ball reaction that will leave corner pins.
I really believe this ball will show its true power in a heavier oil environment (e.g. PBA experience leagues or local tournaments with a longer and flatter pattern). The Kinetic is one of those balls that will fit a larger variety of conditions when more oil is present.
Those of you who have a higher rev rate (i.e. crankers), will be able to get this ball out and back with no additional effort. This ball was built to score. Hitting power and pin carry was excellent. We loved how this ball would reward us for the off-pocket hits, both light and high.
This ball is very driller friendly. You can easily set this ball up to promote your favorite ball reaction. We always recommend that you go to your local pro shop and talk with your pro shop professional about your personal layout and drilling needs. The person who knows your game is the one who is best suited to ensure that this ball will be matched to your style of bowling.
The Track Kinetic is a great start by Track/Ebonite to carry on the tradition of high performance “skid/flip†bowling balls for the experienced bowler.
We will highly recommend this ball to all our pro shop customers.
If you need anymore information about this review you can email me or call me.
Bowlpro
www.riptherack.net
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Post by: Marc822 on January 04, 2008, 11:33:57 AM
Post by: DP3 on March 29, 2008, 06:48:38 PM
Layout
My Kinetic is layed out with the pin under, 5" to PAP with a 30 degree mass bias angle. No x-hole was needed due to the ball being an x-out.
Conditions
I've used the Kinetic on just about everything from various tournament patterns, house shots, to PBA Viper, Cheetah, and Chameleon.
Review
Let me first say this:
I...FEAR...SKID...FLIP!
.....With that said, went with a 30 degress mass bias angle to try and take some of the flip "out of the ball" and left the ball at 4000 abralon. This did the trick as the Kinetic is strong down the lane, but not the all or nothing reaction that the other skid-flip offerings on the market give you. The Kinetic has the predictability and power for me to be a first ball out of the bag ball on anything I bowl on. This may be why I have amassed a large number of games on this ball in only 6 weeks of having it.
The thing I love best about the Kinetic is throwing it and absolutely knowing what move you have to make if you don't get the desired result. That's the epitomy of benchmark. Washout?....simple 3-3 move right and lined up again. 3-6-10?....4-2 move in and back to the hole very strong. The Kinetic is very responsive to what you do at the bottom of your release. In funky transitions, I've been able to get under the ball and get a strong controllable skid/arc out of the ball. My natural game of coming around it alot gives me effortless length and a strong arc in the backend. It's just such a user friendly ball to use that I can see why people rave and rave over the ball. If you bowl under alot of redundancy (THS 2-4 nights a week), a Kinetic, a symmetrical transition ball, and a spareball will be all you need for an entire season. Out of all the balls I have, if I am not using the Kinetic, it's just me being stubborn because I haven't been in a situation yet where I couldn't find something with this ball.
For those that are thinking "skid flip" and nothing but out of this ball, the Kinetic will be a true suprise for you. With a weaker layout it becomes controlled strength in deceptive wrapping. The Kinetic IS my "benchmark" ball, and THE BALL of the 07-08 season in my opinion.
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Post by: thegame on April 01, 2008, 12:52:50 AM
Post by: luckylefty90 on June 27, 2008, 09:19:52 PM
i recommend a kinetic to everyone.
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Wrong side is the strong side!
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on August 23, 2008, 06:05:50 AM
Surface - Box
Reaction
The reaction I get from this ball is a true skid flip reaction. I get great easy length with a very aggressive flip on the backend of the lane. The most backend I have ever seen out of a ball. This is what I wanted out of the Power Machine but at times that ball tended to not make the turn on the back. That does not happen with the Kinetic, it always makes the turn. The reaction I was looking for.
Rating 9.5
Readability
This is not the ball you would use to read a lane with. However I can not hold it against the ball because this is just something this ball was not even made to do. So the statements that you can see some over/under if you tried to read a pattern with this ball, is something you cant blame the ball for. This is something that is fault of the bowler for using the wrong ball to read a pattern.
Rating N/A
Versatility
I have seen this ball be versatile. I have watched a few guys get two or three drilled up with different layouts, and with different covers. I haven’t tried it myself, but what I seen was the following. If the layout was drilled close enough to PAP and the surface was low enough it kept the same Kinetic like motion, only it was able to do it on much more oil. This ball can be versatile but IMHO it is not the first ball I would do it.
Rating 8.5
Hit
Same great Track hit. Hits hard, keeps the pins low for great carry. Not much more I can say.
Rating 10
Overall comments
I like this ball. It fits a hole in my lineup I have been without for a while. I have needed this reaction for about a year. I say this because I had it with the 5.0 but when I sold that I lost it and didn’t get it back. Over all the only thing that is a overall fault is the fact that it needs to be kept clean a lot for a polished ball.
Rating 9.5
Overall rating 9
for reaction 9.5
for readability N/A
for versatilitay 8.5
for hit 10
for overall comments 9.5
Final rating – 9.3
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Post by: ecc0_9879 on April 01, 2011, 02:25:01 PM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length: 3-4
Starting Top Weight:3.25
Ball Weight:15
DRILL PATTERN
Pin to PAP: 5 1/2
pin above bridgeCG to PAP:4 1/2
X Hole (if there is one): double thumb lower quad
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate:475-500
Ball Speed:17-18
PAP/Track:5 over and 1/2 inch up
SURFACE PREP
Grit:OOB
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polish
LANE CONDITION
Length:39 feet
Volume: medium
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS
BALL REACTION
Length:Very LONG
Back End:Angular
Overall Hook:Very strong
Midlane Read:strong and cocnsistant
Breakpoint Shape: Hockey stick
COMMENTS
Pulled this ball out of the closet last week to see if it still Reacted and boy does it ever. This ball is stronger than my 607 Ase way more angular and hit is about the same maybe a touch better on the kenetic because of the stronger motion. Great ball if you can get lucky enought to find another. Hope this was helpful.PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
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