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Bigun

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"New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« on: March 24, 2005, 04:15:09 PM »
I'm wondering who has both to compare. I know I do. I know Mitch does too. The new ones seem to have less mica, and the shell is much thinner. For me, the new heat goes longer (than the old), which may be a result of less mica. That being said, the ball rolls just like the old Heat, and goes through the pins the same. It actually seems to flip harder. I drilled mine pin up 5' from pap, stacked. Can't wait to get another one.
BTW, I am new to this forum. Definatley not new to the game. I'm looking forward to posting more.
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Mitch Beasley

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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2005, 07:21:32 AM »
I have both but I don't have them drilled the same. I am going to order some more and drill one of each the same and compare them. Most of the originals I have have a lot of top weight and the new one they sent me had only 2 oz.
 
 I like the one I drilled and it seems to be about the same amount of hook and definatly has the same hit.
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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2005, 09:03:11 AM »
Has a low diff for most bowling balls today....another reason it gets down the lane pretty well also.
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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2005, 12:10:07 PM »
Bigun, 5 feet is a long pin position.............(Welcome to the forum!!!!)
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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2005, 01:45:50 PM »
I should be able to get my first new heat tonight. pin,top, drilled all the same as my 97 heat. should be throwing it alot before monday and ill let you know how it goes.
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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2005, 01:47:56 PM »
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For me, the new heat goes longer (than the old), which may be a result of less mica. ...It actually seems to flip harder.


WOuldn't the harder flip also be the result of less mica?  


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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2005, 02:09:01 PM »
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For me, the new heat goes longer (than the old), which may be a result of less mica. ...It actually seems to flip harder.


WOuldn't the harder flip also be the result of less mica?  

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I find it awkward to read the many comparisons between old and new Heats by people owning 7-8 year old balls. Some maybe be stronger due to extended use, EVEN if they are or have been re-surfaced. (It may look new, but may not act new and it may be hard to tell the differene.) It may be very difficult to draw a true comparison, unless someone picked up an old one that's been sitting around since they were last manufactured.
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kayoung08

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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2005, 05:26:25 PM »
my 97 heat works like the day i bought it. still hooks a ton and hits like nothing else on the market today. i just got home from picking my 05 heat up and will be throwing probably 10 games with both of them tomorrow.
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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2005, 06:57:24 PM »
Great responses. I must say i've been pretty burned out on bowling, but the new Heat is putting some fire back in my game(pun intended). There is such a Buzz here at my center, people can't wait for the Heat. We even ran a challenge for our Junior bowlers. They bowled 10 games on the ABC pattern to see who won one of my old Heats!

pbafire - n.s.
ozsweet - woops, thats y it goes long! LOL
Ragnar Flooggurass - I think so. IMO the Mica lets the ball read the lane hard in the mids and still pop at the backend.
charlest - I have new Heats from 1998 and 1999 (undrilled ones too Some batches had a ton of mica in them (my favorites). Some had alot of white fazing (which hooked most overall for me). Anyway the Heats i use have literally hundreds of games on them. They read the lane as well today as they did new.
Mica does not seem to wear out as some other additives in the shell do. Any ball made with Mica still rolls well today.
Just a little footnote, I bowled Mitch in the Tri-Regional at the N.B.S. in December. He threw his Heat (1998 i think), I threw my Elite solid. He shoots 279 (with a solid 9), 300, 265 for 844. My humble 7?? was not in the same ball park. Thanks Mitch!

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Mitch Beasley

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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2005, 06:36:43 AM »
Sorry Michael. My heat just won't die. I think it is a 1998 but I will have to look at it and see. I have only two with the white fazing all of the rest are deep red.
 I am fixing to bowl in Houston on a very slick B pattern and I have just as good a look with my heat as I do with anything else. People that have not thrown the Heat will be very suprised and will want to get several.
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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2005, 01:19:29 PM »
Odd, guys, as small mica chips are added to pearlized balls to help them skid.

Large MICA chips added to polished solid resin balls help them grab the lanes. Mica is soirt of a precursor to particles added to resin balls.

Not sure of the hardness of mica. We should have Greg7 reply as he is a materials chemist/engineer.
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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2005, 04:07:57 PM »
i threw 10 games this afternoon with both heats. so far i like the new heat almost as much as the old. had to get used to moving farther right and throwing my same line. seemed to be a little jumpy for me, but that could have been the lane conditions. need to get used to throwing the more polished ball, usually have my 97 down to around 380 abralon. not the best conditions today hot,humid, and could not slide for anything. tomorrow morning will hopefully be better. fresh oil, clean approaches maybe even air conditioning.
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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2005, 12:11:56 PM »
after 6 more games this morning ona  fresh shot, ac, and clean approaches i must say that the balls are identical. i love the new heat as much as the old. goes a little long for me due to the highly polished cover, probably sand it down to about 750 and will replace my 97. those who liked the 97 will love this ball. im sure ill be getting 3-4 more. maybe get one drilled something exotic instead of another drilled the exact same as the 97.
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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2005, 06:49:09 PM »
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Sorry Michael. My heat just won't die. I think it is a 1998 but I will have to look at it and see. I have only two with the white fazing all of the rest are deep red.
 I am fixing to bowl in Houston on a very slick B pattern and I have just as good a look with my heat as I do with anything else. People that have not thrown the Heat will be very suprised and will want to get several.



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nice bowling this weekend in Houston...

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Re: "New" Heat vs. "Old" Heat
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2005, 09:24:49 PM »
Has the new ones got a little lower RG diff as well? i read the new ones were .037 and i'm pretty sure the olds were around .050. My Old one is awesome, stack leveraged(its 3rd drill mind you!) and just polished with track magic shine, equal with the Code Red SE as the best i've got right now(and boyoboy is THAT thing something else when you hit the box finish with magic shine!) cant wait for 'em to hit downunder(i'm really going to buy this time, seeing i never picked up a Threat)


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