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C-G ProShop-Carl

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2 new track balls on the way
« on: June 12, 2003, 09:39:10 AM »
First...the one that some of you may or may not have heard of is the
HEX DARKSIDE.

Second...the Phenom. Guys, let me tell you the core looks AWESOME! Supposedly this ball is going to hook more than the Super Freak. Not quite sure exactly why someone would need more hook than that, but this ball will land in my bag when it comes out. Release date should be within 5-7 weeks. The core is different than the morpheous....but wow.....I cannot even explain it. JUST KEEP YOU EYES OPEN FOR THIS ONE!
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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2003, 01:47:20 AM »
is there anywhere we can go to get a picture of it or anything?  or did you just hear this from someone with track?
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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2003, 07:04:34 AM »
I'm not saying the Track has bad bowling balls because most people that have them LOVE them.  Quite a few have actually interested me, ...however......

How many balls are they going to release ??  2 more ?? they JUST released the Thrash and the Super Freak!  By far, Track's arsenal is the MOST confusing of all companies right now ( to me at least ).

And a ball that hooks even more than the Super Freak?!?!?!?!  How many of their 20 balls is for heavy oil??

Is this just me, or are they on overload right now ?

Once again....I'm not slamming Track,...I just don't understand ...ball after ball after ball.......
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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2003, 07:28:14 AM »
I agree with Jeffrevs.

RANT ON!

I mean how many super oilers can a company put out in one year without customers wondering if Track is just throwing balls "out the window" and hoping they'll eventually get one right. As it is, who can use the Mutant AND the Freak AND the Super Freak without gloss polishing them or throwing them at 25 mph???

I've just verified that they've discontinued one of their best medium-dry balls, the Hex and that was their least hooking normal ball. (The Magic is dull & particle; it is not for anything but medium oil.) It's like no one can use a Track ball for anything except medium conditions with either putting the pin on the PAP or gloss polishing them or both.

How about some arsenal balls, Track and cut out the 49 versions of a medium oil ball: Freakout, Threat, Crunch, etc?

Next thing you know they're going to discontinue their best ball, the VooDoo.

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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2003, 07:31:13 AM »
Jeffrevs, I agree. As much as I am a devoted Track thrower, I look at all of the balls that they have in production and cant find one that will handle light or drier conditions. Everything is a medium to heavy oil ball and then a few that are just made for complete floods. Where is the diversity, I love the balls they are putting out especially with all of the new technology, but please give us bowlers something to round out an arsenal!!
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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2003, 07:37:53 AM »
It's the Hook in a Box addiction.....and Track seems like they want to be the provider!  

That being said, I , however, do not mind when a company releases a couple new balls, but provides information to which balls they are replacing...that I don't mind.......Storm seems to be doing that......replacing the Trauma line with the X Factor line...and that doesn't bother me 1/2 as much........
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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2003, 12:36:47 PM »
THink about it though, besides staffers how many people do you know that exclusively throw one company?  The majority of bowlers do not.  SO terefore if you want a ball for a flood, you get Track, if you want a good skid/flip ball you get a pearl from storm, if you want a controllable smooth reacting ball you get a V2 or one of ebonite's other resin offerings, if you want something early rolling, Columbia has the stuff for you.  I don't think Track is putting out balls with the intention of everyone making an exclusive lineup with their equipment, I think they just want to lead the market in the best balls for particular conditions/

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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2003, 01:10:38 PM »
CharlesT....

I hate to inform you but 2 of my major suppliers have put the VooDoo on their discontinued lists.

DP3...

Wouldn't it make more sense though for a company to make a wide range of balls so they could sell more balls to one bowler? I mean why would Track want you to go buy a ball from another company to round out their set up?

I personally like sticking with one company since you get tho know their covers, cores and can start to predict the reactions of the new balls. You seriously get a feel for what the new releases will do by just looking at the components they are made from.

I agree with the other guys....round out the line and stop with the hook in a box.
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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2003, 01:48:08 PM »
I am a devoted Track user.  Except for my spare ball (a Pink Hammer) my entire operational setup is Track.  Yes, even for the dry conditions, I have a Heat 2 and Heat 2 Pearl that have died, but I keep them for real deserts.

That being said, I totally agree that Track might be missing the boat in hook-monster production.  My main arsenal is a Track Threat, Track Hex and Track Money.  The Threat and the Hex are less than six months old.  

The problem for Track is that they can roll out a dozen new balls.  But this customer won't be paying for them because the ones I have are fine.  I have hook...I don't need more hook.  The ones I have will suffice for quite awhile.  

Now if, instead of hitting the hook-monster market, they released something exclusively to hit the dry lanes, I would be the first in line to get one...and I am willing to be in an informal poll, many of you would be in line with me.

They do need to broaden their line instead of sticking with the high end stuff.

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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2003, 02:19:40 PM »
I have said many times in the forum that Track lacks that ball for light lane conditions. I currently use a Track VooDoo with the pin 5 1/2 in from PAP, polished with 3 coats of contoll it.

Track has seemingly jumped on the wagon as far as hook monsters go. However, alot of the balls they have out may hook, but they give a different look on the lane when/where they hook. The Freak gets down the lane better than the Mutant, the Super Freak gets nowhere near the length the Mutant gets.....The Threat, has incredible backend, but for the guy that has more ball speed and it is not enough ball he would want to choose the Freak Out.

The Voo Doo is indeed on the discontinued list for Track Equipment. For alot of average-to weak handed league bowlers they walk into a pro shop and want the ball that HOOKs. You may never see a staffer use a Super Freak because he has far too much hand for it.

I am not defending Track, I am only saying what comes to mind when I look at what they have out. they certainly lack a ball that would fall in the Brunswick Groove-Columbia Scout-Ebonite Tornado-Storm hit/big hit category. What they are doing correctly right now is giving people a core (morpheous-and the core in the phenom) that have not been in any other equipment. Can Brunswick/columbia/ebonite/storm say the same? No. They are releasing balls (not all, but most) that have the same core as many of the older stuff they have released. Has anyone forgotten that Track released the first ball that had an accurately marked MB?

To answer the question ealier on in someone's post. I saw the drill sheet with the picture of the core. Very interesting look. It looks very powerful. If you were here I could draw a picture, but it is very difficult to explain.

Aside from the weaker/or even 3pc core I would like to see them release a reactive coverstock with the morpheous core.

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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2003, 06:14:30 PM »
But unless I miss my guess it's the advanced bowlers that are looking for less hook and the entry-level heroes that are looking for all the hook they can find.

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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2003, 11:12:42 AM »
I guess I will eat my words about not wanting one of the high-end balls. I have always trusted my Track Money to be my oil ball and have been fairly satisfied.  But lately I have been completely unable to hit the 'sport condition', bowling more like I have a broken arm than like a bowler and I was really getting down on myself for it, pretty much settling into the fact that I am not a real bowler, just another house bowler.  

Now I come to find out from a pro shop guy that I really trust, that the Money isn't a good choice to play inside on the flat or reverse block we usually see in tournament conditions here, especially the way it's drilled.  Turns out I have no equipment drilled in a way that will be productive on that condition.

As a result I will probably be getting a Mutant likely with the pin under the ring and CG kicked right an inch or so.

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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2003, 02:25:53 PM »
Nevada Bowl...

I have a Mutant drilled very similiar to how you say you want to get one done. It does hook, but that ball sanded to 800 still does not hook like the Super Freak. If you want to be able to swing the ball a bit on that flat oil pattern, get the Super Freak instead.
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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2003, 03:49:33 PM »
Excaliber,

Thanks for the info...I will be looking into both as a result.  Most of the patterns we see in tournaments around here feel like reverse block with outside 10 as OB.  A big swing isn't really that much of an issue...something to get it to the break  point without going to OB is more the key.

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Re: 2 new track balls on the way
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2003, 09:35:16 PM »
Excalibur, I have a Super Freak drilled pin under ring, mass bias to the lower right of thumb with the cg stacked under pin and I cannot swing this ball at all. I love the way it rolls but by no means can I play a swing shot with it. I have to play straight up 8 with it. In order to play a swing, should I give it more surface with a scotch brite??
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