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J_Mac

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930T, 715A, and 505C
« on: May 18, 2009, 10:42:28 AM »
http://www.talktenpin.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3583&Itemid=127

2 new cores still under wraps so far.  505C recycles the Shuttle core out of the Kinetic lineup.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2009, 06:47:57 PM »
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2009, 07:29:49 PM »
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Those are the names.  That's going to be track's new naming system.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 07:54:17 PM »
I know that the numbers are supposed to signify reaction or strength?  The "C" probably is Control, the "T" Traction (cover has Mica in it) and the "A" Angular?  So maybe they equate to smooth, heavy midlane roll and skid/flip.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2009, 08:18:38 PM »
Great idea. I'l be drilling at least 2 of each. Well done Track. I'm sure they'l roll great
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2009, 08:22:27 PM »
Sweet! I'm glad Track is still around.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2009, 08:25:02 PM »
Just saw this from Scoot on the Track forum.  Second 2 numbers in the name signify MB strength....here's a cut and paste:

the 5 7 9 series are the numbers that will be used to tell what line the ball is in.

5 Series is the Mid performance line

7 Series is the Upper - Mid performance line

9 Series is the High performance line

each series will have its number in the name. Then you will have a number that tells you the core strength of ball in the line. Finnally in the name you will have one of three letters that will tell you what kind of cover the ball has. The letters will be C = control, A = Angular, T = Traction. Each letter tells you something. C tells you the ball will be smoother overall and is a good benchmark type ball. A tells you the ball will get down lane and be ideal skid flip. T tells you the ball has a cover made for oil. So with these lets create a fake ball to give you an example. We will use the 7 series for this.

The name of the ball we will use will be 724T.

What you can take from this name is the following.

1. It is a 7 series ball
2. The core strength (MASS BIAS STRENGTH) is .024
2a. Each series has a set number that the core strength will be in. For example the 5 series will have mb rating from .0000-.009. The 7s will be .010-.024, and the 9s will be .025 and higher.
3. The type of cover on this ball is ment for oil.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2009, 09:26:53 PM »
August 6th? I'm entirely too impatient to wait that long.

Will probably pick up the 930T.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2009, 10:48:48 PM »
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Those are the names.  That's going to be track's new naming system.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2009, 10:52:29 PM »
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Just saw this from Scoot on the Track forum.  Second 2 numbers in the name signify MB strength....here's a cut and paste:

the 5 7 9 series are the numbers that will be used to tell what line the ball is in.

5 Series is the Mid performance line

7 Series is the Upper - Mid performance line

9 Series is the High performance line

each series will have its number in the name. Then you will have a number that tells you the core strength of ball in the line. Finally in the name you will have one of three letters that will tell you what kind of cover the ball has. The letters will be C = control, A = Angular, T = Traction. Each letter tells you something. C tells you the ball will be smoother overall and is a good benchmark type ball. A tells you the ball will get down lane and be ideal skid flip. T tells you the ball has a cover made for oil. So with these lets create a fake ball to give you an example. We will use the 7 series for this.

The name of the ball we will use will be 724T.

What you can take from this name is the following.

1. It is a 7 series ball
2. The core strength (MASS BIAS STRENGTH) is .024
2a. Each series has a set number that the core strength will be in. For example the 5 series will have mb rating from .0000-.009. The 7s will be .010-.024, and the 9s will be .025 and higher.
3. The type of cover on this ball is meant for oil.


Yes this is how you can sell these balls. Think about how some people would say o why is this ball cheaper then this ball over here. Then they point to say a anger and then a hot sauce. Well with the naming system you can look at it as if it was a car. You don't walk into a BMW dealer and have to ask why is the 3 series cheaper then the 7. You know why it is, one the added built in extras on the car are in greater amounts and details. Then the motor alone is alot stronger in the 7 then the 3. The names of these balls do the same thing. You don't have to try and point out with photos of the cores or names of the covers to try and help the bowler understand the price difference. It is all in the name.

To help understand this more lets use two balls from last year and turn there names from last year into the new name system so we can have and example. We will use the 505A (Tantrum) and the 932A (Up-Rising). Lets say the customer came in and said what track ball do you recommend for a skid flip reaction (You are out of Kinetics) that I can get today.


You can say well right now I have two balls the 505A and the 932A.
He may then say ok what is the difference between them, and why is there the price difference. (He asks this because he is not familiar with the name idea)
You can then say, The differences are these. This ball here has a Performance rating of 5 and this one is 9. The higher the number the more overall performance you can get. He may then say, ok then what els can you tell me. You can then say ok well this second number tells you how dynamic the core is. This one has a dynamic rating of 03 while this one has one of 32. Once again the higher the number the more dynamic. He may then say ok so what does this letter mean. You then say it tells you what kind of reaction it is to give. A mean just what you asked for length and alot of flip on the backend. This is why I point out these to. You said you wanted length and alot of flip and thats what this A means. You just gave the man all the info he needs on why these balls were recommend from the brand, and then also a idea of how much performance he can expect from them. He now knows the 503A can do what he want, get down lane and flip but the 932A can also do this but on a greater performance level. This then can help you sell the right ball for the right guy. I know we all have had the guys who come in who say they want this reaction and pick the High price ball but they stand 15 and drop the ball over 10 all night. Then come the middle of game to and all of game three their balls starts to roll out. Well that because the high price ball is now to strong for the lane condition. By having the series number you can step in and say that the 5 series model for length and flip will play longer on the lanes because its overall performance strength doesn't call for as much oil as the 9. You can then say, the 9 will do the job, however when the night goes on you may have to move outside your comfort zone or switch balls because the lanes will call for something to get through the dry a little better. This is when you point out that the lower series ball because of its less over all performance rating can get him more time on the lane maybe even the entire nite unless things get real nasty out there.

The same things can be done for if the guy is a guy who plays deep to start the night and gets further left as the night goes on, you would just switch out the balls. He might need the 9 series over the 5 to help him get the extra help for recovery down lane as he tries to play through the other lines and extra help if he hits carry down.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2009, 10:53:05 PM »
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Those are the names.  That's going to be track's new naming system.
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...  Guess it's too late to rethink that one.


What's not to like?  I think it's an interesting idea to use a name that tells you what to expect from the piece.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2009, 01:34:14 AM »
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Those are the names.  That's going to be track's new naming system.
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...  Guess it's too late to rethink that one.


What's not to like?  I think it's an interesting idea to use a name that tells you what to expect from the piece.


I suppose.  I guess we'll just have to see what happens when they release.  I for one am not that fond at all of the "names" when I can see them on the spec sheet.  Ironic enough, it can be seen as a lack of creativity to not give them names, but yet creative to give them numbers.  It's all in how a person sees it.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 03:14:26 AM »
This type of code on a bowling ball can be useful specially to a pro shop and for a buyer, but in the end name or code the main thing is that the ball fit well for the player.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 08:54:01 AM »
Didnt Global start this with their cover ratings 2 years ago?  I think they still use it and couple it with a name.  Best of both worlds......This is a cool idea but i know my customers still like names.....Naming the ball a number can get boring after awhile.  What are they going to do when they run out of MB to hit? 930.1 version 10x?  Sounds like an ebonite coverstock hahahahahaa
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 09:33:15 AM »
If the ball rolls nice and people strike alot with it who cares what the name is. Track is not marketing to the Rock-N-Bowl market. This is a ball company for serious bowlers. Serious bowlers care about performance and color. No matter what anyone says, color is a factor.
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