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J_Mac

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930T, 715A, and 505C
« on: May 18, 2009, 10:42:28 AM »
http://www.talktenpin.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3583&Itemid=127

2 new cores still under wraps so far.  505C recycles the Shuttle core out of the Kinetic lineup.
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kidlost2000

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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2009, 02:34:58 AM »
About a year. Got the synergy pearl undrilled about a year and a half ago, and the synergy ETS about a year ago undrilled. Both off ebay, and both 15lbs.

Two years ago I got an undrilled RH double helix, then 6 months later an original sapphire zone.(both 15) Just sold the sapphire about a month ago for $305 on ebay. For that kind of money I would rather sell it then drill it. lol

I still have undrilled an inertia, machine, 2-equations, and just sold a shear havoc and a triple threat.

I love the older Track stuff and can't wait to drill some before league starts back.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2009, 09:38:28 PM »
Hey kidlost2000
 If ya think bout sellin the Pearl Synergy or a Eq. let me know. I shot my 300 & won a local tv tourney (kwch ch12 goldpin challenge)with the Synergy...Man I love that ball!!!!
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2009, 10:07:34 PM »
If I do It will be linked on here to ebay. But I can't at this time. Plan to drill it some day. The ETS will be drilled this fall for sure.

I also forgot to mention for Track stuff a 15lb Purple Solution. I have two and will sell the one of them.
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2009, 01:59:47 PM »
I think I like this new system....

By using numbers instead of names, it might help the consumer to forget about balls named,  Rising, Uprising, and Rising SE....

And that would be a good thing.................


Oh please, don't start....

They may have been the poorest selling line ever in Track History.....
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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #50 on: June 04, 2009, 04:00:45 PM »
Cause of price more then anything and the #1 recommended drill pattern on the first Rising.

I think The Rising SE was the most Track looking ball they have released so far. Everything else you can leave the label off of it and fit it in somewhere for Ebonite or Hammer.

Not much new Track being sold where I live. The pro shop doesn't stock it. Where as before it had a pretty good selection.
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Xcessive_Evil

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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #51 on: June 05, 2009, 11:14:12 PM »
I actually got to see the the 930 and 505 in regional practice(Chameleon)today.  I must say I'm impressed with the 505.  It goes very long and makes a good move to the pocket without "burning rubber".  The 930 on the other hand did not impress me in the slightest bit.  It went long, and just kept going.  I don't know if that layout doesn't agree with the pattern or what.

In a bit of idle banter, I asked him(stroker/tweener style) if the 505 is truly mid-low end.  "As low end as Track makes" is what he said to me.  He also told me that the 5 series is to replace the Temper/Tantrum series, which I know is not mid-low end.  Combined with the shuttle core it's likely going to be yet another upper performance ball and a mid-low end price.

I then began to think about how my Kinetic Pearl reacted on the pattern.  Even with the neg MB layout, it still turned hard as did my Kinetic Energy.  So, now I'm not even sure if I'll be picking up the 505-the jury will have to deliberate longer.  In person, the ball looks magnificent!  

In other news, I think this regional is going to be grind.  From my experience(albeit very little), it seems the Chameleon is the most demanding in terms of accuracy.  One board left and it flies, one board right and it's not coming back.  Maybe that what the problem was I saw when he was throwing the 930.
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Mark T. Trgovac

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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2009, 12:24:49 AM »
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I actually got to see the the 930 and 505 in regional practice(Chameleon)today.  I must say I'm impressed with the 505.  It goes very long and makes a good move to the pocket without "burning rubber".  The 930 on the other hand did not impress me in the slightest bit.  It went long, and just kept going.  I don't know if that layout doesn't agree with the pattern or what.

In a bit of idle banter, I asked him(stroker/tweener style) if the 505 is truly mid-low end.  "As low end as Track makes" is what he said to me.  He also told me that the 5 series is to replace the Temper/Tantrum series, which I know is not mid-low end.  Combined with the shuttle core it's likely going to be yet another upper performance ball and a mid-low end price.

I then began to think about how my Kinetic Pearl reacted on the pattern.  Even with the neg MB layout, it still turned hard as did my Kinetic Energy.  So, now I'm not even sure if I'll be picking up the 505-the jury will have to deliberate longer.  In person, the ball looks magnificent!  

In other news, I think this regional is going to be grind.  From my experience(albeit very little), it seems the Chameleon is the most demanding in terms of accuracy.  One board left and it flies, one board right and it's not coming back.  Maybe that what the problem was I saw when he was throwing the 930.
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The MB on balls like the KP and KE is to weak for the MB left of the thumb or negative, to make much of a difference. Also on stronger stuff placing it there can give you 1 of two reactions. It can give you alot of extra length with a hard turn to the pocket or it can make a ball react real controled on the lanes. The best layout I have seen to even out the balls is to take ball and lay it out pin 1" from VAL, 1" from PAP, and everything els kicked past the VAL with a weight hole to return it to static legal weights. This really evens out the balls and tames them down on the backend alot.
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Xcessive_Evil

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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2009, 01:30:22 AM »
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I actually got to see the the 930 and 505 in regional practice(Chameleon)today.  I must say I'm impressed with the 505.  It goes very long and makes a good move to the pocket without "burning rubber".  The 930 on the other hand did not impress me in the slightest bit.  It went long, and just kept going.  I don't know if that layout doesn't agree with the pattern or what.

In a bit of idle banter, I asked him(stroker/tweener style) if the 505 is truly mid-low end.  "As low end as Track makes" is what he said to me.  He also told me that the 5 series is to replace the Temper/Tantrum series, which I know is not mid-low end.  Combined with the shuttle core it's likely going to be yet another upper performance ball and a mid-low end price.

I then began to think about how my Kinetic Pearl reacted on the pattern.  Even with the neg MB layout, it still turned hard as did my Kinetic Energy.  So, now I'm not even sure if I'll be picking up the 505-the jury will have to deliberate longer.  In person, the ball looks magnificent!  

In other news, I think this regional is going to be grind.  From my experience(albeit very little), it seems the Chameleon is the most demanding in terms of accuracy.  One board left and it flies, one board right and it's not coming back.  Maybe that what the problem was I saw when he was throwing the 930.
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Hope this is not Chris' blood....
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v690/Phoenix_RsX


The MB on balls like the KP and KE is to weak for the MB left of the thumb or negative, to make much of a difference. Also on stronger stuff placing it there can give you 1 of two reactions. It can give you alot of extra length with a hard turn to the pocket or it can make a ball react real controled on the lanes. The best layout I have seen to even out the balls is to take ball and lay it out pin 1" from VAL, 1" from PAP, and everything els kicked past the VAL with a weight hole to return it to static legal weights. This really evens out the balls and tames them down on the backend alot.
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http://www.c-gproshop.com/


This may be worth a try.
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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v690/Phoenix_RsX
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Mark T. Trgovac

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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2009, 12:07:10 AM »
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I actually got to see the the 930 and 505 in regional practice(Chameleon)today.  I must say I'm impressed with the 505.  It goes very long and makes a good move to the pocket without "burning rubber".  The 930 on the other hand did not impress me in the slightest bit.  It went long, and just kept going.  I don't know if that layout doesn't agree with the pattern or what.

In a bit of idle banter, I asked him(stroker/tweener style) if the 505 is truly mid-low end.  "As low end as Track makes" is what he said to me.  He also told me that the 5 series is to replace the Temper/Tantrum series, which I know is not mid-low end.  Combined with the shuttle core it's likely going to be yet another upper performance ball and a mid-low end price.

I then began to think about how my Kinetic Pearl reacted on the pattern.  Even with the neg MB layout, it still turned hard as did my Kinetic Energy.  So, now I'm not even sure if I'll be picking up the 505-the jury will have to deliberate longer.  In person, the ball looks magnificent!  

In other news, I think this regional is going to be grind.  From my experience(albeit very little), it seems the Chameleon is the most demanding in terms of accuracy.  One board left and it flies, one board right and it's not coming back.  Maybe that what the problem was I saw when he was throwing the 930.
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Hope this is not Chris' blood....
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v690/Phoenix_RsX


The MB on balls like the KP and KE is to weak for the MB left of the thumb or negative, to make much of a difference. Also on stronger stuff placing it there can give you 1 of two reactions. It can give you alot of extra length with a hard turn to the pocket or it can make a ball react real controled on the lanes. The best layout I have seen to even out the balls is to take ball and lay it out pin 1" from VAL, 1" from PAP, and everything els kicked past the VAL with a weight hole to return it to static legal weights. This really evens out the balls and tames them down on the backend alot.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Youngstown, Ohio
Track Live Chat Tech Support
Track HITMAN.

Tag Team Coaching Success Story.

http://www.c-gproshop.com/


This may be worth a try.
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Hope this is not Chris' blood....
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v690/Phoenix_RsX


X, I have done this with a tantrum and a 505. The layout really evens them out. I can take them straight up the boards without having to change my normal release. If you really want to give this layout a try I will give you the layout numbers I used. Just PM me if you want them.
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http://www.c-gproshop.com/

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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2009, 05:35:06 AM »
Hey X,

This may work based on your pap, you have some room to play with. You can even push some pieces to past pap (dependent on varying strengths of the mb on asyms and positioning) as the track will pull back towards your thumb without clipping it with your inverted track.  Hope this helps some...
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Xcessive_Evil

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Re: 930T, 715A, and 505C
« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2009, 05:51:52 PM »
It does.  I'm looking to retire a few pieces shortly.  Looking for replacements now as I'm done with the car for now.

I like the 505, as well as the boom, onyx vibe and razyr.
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