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zorchman

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ball changing
« on: October 11, 2009, 06:35:51 AM »
on poage 67 this months bowlers journal
usbc eq spec comm has approved a new bowling ball spec thsat will delay and weaken overall bowling ball motion.the new rule goes into effect july 1,2010.and will deccease the amount of inherant aggression manufactors can infuse into there bowling balls.any comments on this.so now what for the manufactors going back old school to urethane.good thing i  kept old ball.
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Re: ball changing
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2009, 02:48:52 PM »
iut was posted in the forums i go to for a reaction from die hards who only go to one companys area.why so full of rage
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Billy Ray

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Re: ball changing
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009, 07:40:49 AM »
How about posting some specifics about the rule that is printed?
Has it been approved or is it up for adoption?

I have not seen the latest BJ yet.
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Re: ball changing
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009, 08:33:08 AM »
Cut&Pase from USBC site:

 
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USBC Equipment Specifications and Certifications Committee adopts new bowling ball specification as part of continuing effort to reestablish bowling’s credibility
The USBC Equipment Specifications and Certifications Committee has adopted a new specification for all bowling balls approved for competition on or after July 1, 2010. The new specification will raise the allowable lower-limit radius of gyration (RG) measurement to 2.460 inches up from 2.430 inches.
Raising the lower-limit RG specification will delay and weaken overall ball motion, thereby decreasing the amount of inherent aggressiveness bowling ball manufacturers can infuse into their bowling ball product lines.
This specification change, and others that have been recently adopted, which include Surface Roughness – Ra, lane surface hardness and lane conditioner viscosity, is aimed at reestablishing player skill as an equally if not more important factor than technology in determining bowling ball motion.
“Our sport incorporates a multitude of variables relating from the ball to the bowler to the lane and beyond. This new RG specification should be supported by league and tournament players alike because it is another step that USBC is taking to bring results back in line with player performance,” USBC Technical Director Steve Kloempken said. “We will continue addressing this issue and investigating possible specification changes until we get back to the point where player skill is as important as, if not more important than, technology in determining success on the lanes.”
The realization that a new lower-limit RG specification was needed came about after USBC Equipment Specifications and Certifications team members conducted exhaustive analysis of the Ball Motion Study, a two-year, joint research venture conducted by USBC in cooperation with bowling ball manufacturers.
The study, which can be read in its entirety on USBC’s bowl.com Web site, examined and ranked how 18 different variables affect bowling ball motion. The study was completed in March 2008. Since that time, the USBC Equipment Specifications and Certifications Committee has evaluated the results and used the findings to establish and/or modify specifications limiting a bowling ball’s Surface Roughness - Ra and, now, lower-limit RG standard.
All bowling balls approved before the deadline will be grandfathered in under the current RG specifications, making them legal for future USBC-certified competition. The specification change will only apply to balls approved on or after July 1, 2010.
“One of the important things to consider is how research and this new specification benefits our members,” Kloempken said. “Between 2005 and 2008, we gathered critical knowledge and data from the Ball Motion Study. Using that data to modify current specifications like this is critical to educate our members and uphold the credibility of the sport. It is all done in an ongoing effort to balance player skill and technology, and you as a USBC member are a part of it.”
For more information on this and other technical issues, visit the Equipment Specifications and Certifications area of bowl.com.

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Re: ball changing
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2009, 09:12:13 AM »
95%+ of the balls currently on the market are at or above this level (100% of Track) so ????? Current balls are grandfathered in so stock up now!!!!!!!!
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Re: ball changing
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2009, 09:37:02 AM »
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95%+ of the balls currently on the market are at or above this level (100% of Track) so ????? Current balls are grandfathered in so stock up now!!!!!!!!
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 I know. Just another un-informed, know-nothing alarmist, parroting everything they see, hear, and read. A change from 2.430 to 2.460 will be negligible because most people don't drill balls to the maximum low RG ( which would be pin on pap).

  Now, if they said everything had to be at least 78dur with low porosity, minimal surface Ra, an RG min of 2.55, and a diff max of .25, with NO ASYMMETRICS ALLOWED, you might have something newsworthy. Otherwise, it means little, if anything.
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Re: ball changing
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2009, 09:47:30 AM »
Typical to the USBC another Useless rule change.
How about putting limits on Mass Bias strength and putting some real teeth to the RG rule? The Ra Rule was somewhat significant but still the ball is not the root of all evil but I guess its a starting point. The lanes have to be made tougher. The lane is the playing field we are all using. Golf courses have been made tighter and employed larger penalties for offline shots and the same could be done on the lanes. A perfect example is the USBC nationals. Although the scores are or have been higher to win recently with the sheer numbers of bowlers bowling on the lanes its just a matter of time before someone is going to get lined up and have a great set. I feel the lane dressing is still the easiest way to level the playing field, Although I am not against equipment specs I feel they need a multi pronged attack to restore the credibility to our sport. The major problem with the lanes is that there are still proprietors out there who will circumvent the system or rules to inflate scores.
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Re: ball changing
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2009, 04:59:02 PM »
Well, since I don''t work for any of the bowling companies or the USBC, allow me to repeat what I said on another thread: "Oh bull".

The only current ball I can think of that is below the minimum Rg is the Chalk which is at 2.43-2.44 at some weights.

As to the Ra, although chemistry such as seen on the Brunswick C System 2.5, or the oil soaking Ebonite GBV12.7 coverstocks can make a difference in surface roughness most of us are good enough at surface manipulation that we could care less about the exact factory surface.

If the USBC is serious about returning bowling to the old days, just put down flat oil patterns (think US Open) and only allow bowlers to use the two balls they brought to the tournament. I used to watch Dick Weber and Don Carter make their spares with their strike balls. They were rarely traveling with any extra equipment when I saw them bowl.


Edited on 10/12/2009 7:21 PM