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Fluff E Bunnie

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Clean & Dull Status
« on: March 02, 2007, 02:10:40 AM »
Hey, does anyone know the current status of Clean & Dull?

I had my pro shop order a giant bottle of it but they are saying that all the suppliers around them are out of it.

If Ebonite gets rid of Clean & Dull I am going to throw a Dixie Cup at their main office.
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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2007, 10:40:00 PM »
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The name of Clean and Dull has been changed to Clean and Tacky. My pro shop ordered a 32oz bottle of Clean and Tacky and it works exactly the same. The only difference is the color and the new smell.

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Sorry DW, but they never phased out CND. They kept both around mostly because even though CND never really dulled the ball naturaly there were some people who just didnt want to belive it. So they kept both out and were making money off both.

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Quick Question off topic..

what is the Track Power Wash? I mean like what exactly does it do? Just clean? If it just cleans the ball then why have Clean n' Dull? Just wondering, i never figured this one out
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Brian,

I thought I told you this a while ago but I might not have. Tracks power wash is more of a fast spray cleaner you can use to just fast clean your balls with right after use. Clean N Dull/Clean N Tacky are deep gel cleaners that when you use on a ball that you havent cleaned for a while will pull oil out of the coverstock. Not as far down as like a hot water bath but enough to completly change the top surface texture of the ball. Hope that helped.

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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2007, 01:09:59 AM »
No problem Scoot. In my area the Dist. doesn't't have CND anymore. Just CNT from now on is what they told us. Fine with me because they work the same and it smells better.
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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2007, 07:50:21 AM »
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Quick Question off topic..

what is the Track Power Wash? I mean like what exactly does it do? Just clean? If it just cleans the ball then why have Clean n' Dull? Just wondering, i never figured this one out
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clean and dull / tacky are gel cleaners,   considered to be stronger at pulling the oil out of a ball.  they also tend to leave the ball a little more tacky.   many bowlers may use a good spray cleaner like powerwash after or durinh bowling,  and then later when they may be at home,  use clean and dull.
especially if they were going to re do the cover.   sanding or polish.
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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2007, 09:54:38 PM »
Send a email to these and tell themto keep CnD around.

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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2007, 10:17:23 AM »
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anyone know where I can reload on my clean n dull?


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NOT TO PANIC,  we have been selling clean and dull since the early 90's.  but recently we came across a product called extreme dull by lane concepts.

great product!!!!  and it comes in a 8 oz bottle.  now i know clean & dull did also.  but i do believe that their 8 oz bottles were phased out.  and now only the 4 oz {  more costly } bottles are available.

since we have had the new extreme dull on the shelf,  it is outselling the clean & dull / tacky.   main reason is the price.  much better buy for the 8 oz bottle as opposed to the smaller 4 oz bottle.

and the feedback on the product has been excellent.

i do hope that ebonite does keep the track line of cleaners and polish,  especially clean & dull / tacky, and powerwash and magic shine.

but if they don't>>>> life will go on,  and we will sell more lane concepts products.

they have an excellent spray cleaner,  and excellent polish, and an excellent
dull cleaner>>>> not a gel>>>  looks more like a cream.  but does an excellent job cleaning and leaving the ball tacky!!!
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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2007, 10:36:23 AM »
E-mail sent to my regions rep. We'll see what happens now.........
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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2007, 11:40:15 AM »
Once again, Clean n Dull is a one of a kind product that does what it says it will do. Deep cleans a bowling ball better than other cleaner on the market.
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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2007, 12:24:39 PM »
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Once again, Clean n Dull is a one of a kind product that does what it says it will do. Deep cleans a bowling ball better than other cleaner on the market.
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I SEE,  so what you are saying here is that you have not tried this other product?????   we have tried them both,  and actually do prefer extreme dull
over clean and dull.  and their extreme clean spray 4 oz bottle,  now out sells
everything we stock.   and we stock many cleaners.

so just in case ebonite does not keep the track cleaners,   we will be prepared.
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« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2007, 02:10:42 PM »
I do not see extreme dull or extreme shine on the usbc approved list. Are these brand new releases?
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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2007, 03:00:52 PM »
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I do not see extreme dull or extreme shine on the usbc approved list. Are these brand new releases?
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not sure how long it's been out.  lane concepts has been around for a long time.  we got introduced to the product by one of our clean & dull customers.
he works in a bowling alley and saw a bowler cleaning his ball with extreme clean.  he asked if he could try it,  and did and loved the product.

he then told me about it and we ordered the extreme clean.  and it quickly out sold everything in the shop.  then we tried their dull cleaner.   and the response has been great.  two reasons>>. first it comes in a 8 oz bottle as opposed to c&d which now only comes in a 4 oz bottle.  { and quarts }
so the product is more price friendly >>>  $7.95 c&d 4 oz,   as to $11.95 for extreme dull 8 oz. >>> second,  most of the customers trying the new product
have been users of c & d.  and they seem to like the reaction of this new cleaner.  

don't know if ebonite will drop the track line,   hope not,  cause we do plan to still carry it.
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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2007, 03:40:24 PM »
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I do not see extreme dull or extreme shine on the usbc approved list. Are these brand new releases?
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Extreme Clean is on the approved list for use during competition.  

Not sure about the others, but don't forget the USBC caveat: "USBC does not approve ball cleaning products, but does test them for acceptability. The attached list is representative only of those cleaners that were tested and does not include products in the marketplace that have not been analyzed."

Since Clean N' Dull is on the list, can't imagine why the Lane Concepts products wouldn't also be legal.  Of course, Extreme Dull is advertised to:
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Extreme Dull contains an advanced Water Based formula that cleans better and removes scratches and sanding marks down to 400 grit.  Restores Dull surfaced bowling balls to their "Out-Of-The-Box" condition.


So there may be the chance that it could alter the coverstock and be in violation of Rule 18 - would still be okay to use before or after competition.


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Re: Clean & Dull Status
« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2007, 10:55:28 AM »
Any update on whether or not Clean 'N Dull will be discontinued?
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    Re: Clean & Dull Status
    « Reply #43 on: March 20, 2007, 11:04:36 AM »
    I don't know but I am starting to think it is a lost cause.
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    « Reply #44 on: March 20, 2007, 12:00:29 PM »
    Ebonite will continue to carry Clean N Dull.
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    « Reply #45 on: March 20, 2007, 12:22:08 PM »
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    Ebonite will continue to carry Clean N Dull.

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