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Title: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 11, 2006, 02:10:03 PM
hello everyone i was getting a Machine, specs here...

Gross weight - 15.3
Top weight - 2.75 or 3.00oz
Pin - 2-2.5

can i do some good drills with this?
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-Brian

Edited on 7/11/2006 10:15 PM

Edited on 7/13/2006 1:26 PM
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: themagician on July 11, 2006, 10:16:01 PM
Hahaha sweet, man me too, same specs also, and if you look on the website they have drill patterns that look very helpfull, but can you post ball speed, axis tilt, axis rotation, high tracker/low tracker, high rev or low rev player, it helps.
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Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: LAA on July 11, 2006, 10:18:38 PM
Hammer33, I've been told the top weight on yours is going to be 3.00.

We'll know for sure once it arrives.

LAA
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 13, 2006, 01:31:33 PM
my PAP is..

Over -  3 3/4
Up -  1 3/8
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-Brian
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: SteveAustin2808 on July 13, 2006, 01:48:33 PM
Hey Brian,

What kind of reaction are you looking for buddy? Where are you wanting this ball to fall in your arsenal? Let me know and I'll try and suggest a layout to you dude! God Bless You and have a great week!

--Michael--
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Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 13, 2006, 01:53:48 PM
ok.. well i was thinking of a simple arsenal like this..

Mean Machine - Heavy
Machine - Medium
Desert Heat - Light/Dry

Now the Machine i wanted to use as a "First Ball out of the Bag" Ball. I want it to be able to be good in medium oil and maybe use the Desert Heat when the Machine gets to jumpy. The Machine's reaction i wanted to be between a hard and smooth backend i dont want it too hard or too smooth.

Hope this Helps
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-Brian
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 13, 2006, 05:24:57 PM
suggestions?
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-Brian
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: SteveAustin2808 on July 13, 2006, 05:26:55 PM
Hey Brian,

Sorry about the delay dude. I've been trying to come up with an idea based on your PAP. Honestly, off the top of my head I'm thinking something Pin Above. Like maybe Pin Above the Bridge with the MB somewhere between 5 and 6, maybe even 5:30. How is your other equipment laid out buddy? Then I may get somewhere! Thanks dude and God Bless You!

--Michael--
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What Are You Waiting For? Get on the FASTTrack to success!!

Track -- Building success stories, one bowler at a time!

Track -- YOU JUST CAN'T BEAT THAT!!!

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Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 13, 2006, 05:28:27 PM
it's in my profile, but the thing is those balls aren't drilled on my PAP

EDIT: i'm taking new pics now sorry.
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-Brian

Edited on 7/13/2006 5:48 PM
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 13, 2006, 05:56:59 PM
here they are..

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/BowlingBalls001.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/BowlingBalls002.jpg
the tape there is the CG (on the second pic)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/BowlingBalls003.jpg

sorry about that..

PS. remember these aren't drilled on my PAP
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-Brian

Edited on 7/13/2006 5:53 PM
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: JessN16 on July 13, 2006, 08:17:49 PM
I've got a ball with virtually the same raw specs as that. It's drilled pin just under the bridge, CG under the ring, MB at about 4:30. I love the reaction I've gotten out of mine. Medium leaning medium-heavy, super strong in the backends.

My style: ~17 mph, about 350 rev rate, mid-tracker.

Jess
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 13, 2006, 08:18:52 PM
thanks that info helps good
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-Brian
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on July 13, 2006, 08:50:48 PM
Brian,

Based on your specs I would still keep the pin low on the Machine. Have it drilled pin 4inches from PAP.... 1 3/4 above your midline...I would prefer 2 inches but I am not sure of your span and most 13yr olds if the ball is correctly drilled shouldn't have a very long span. I would place the MB 4 1/4 from PAP.

This layout will still allow length for you, and the MB placement will help with the backend reaction.

Goodluck,
Carl
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Youngstown Ohio

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Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 13, 2006, 08:54:36 PM
well my span is over 4 1/2 i know that. i think it's closer to 4 9/16's. i think
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-Brian
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on July 13, 2006, 09:04:00 PM
Brian,

go with 2-2 1/4 above your midline.

Carl
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C-G Pro Shop (owner/operator)
Youngstown Ohio

Track Intl.-Amateur/Pro Shop Staff
www.trackbowling.com
www.startabowlingrevolution.com


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Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 13, 2006, 09:05:24 PM
so a 2-2.5 inch pin is still good for that.. right?
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-Brian
Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on July 13, 2006, 09:06:12 PM
DEFINATELY!
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C-G Pro Shop (owner/operator)
Youngstown Ohio

Track Intl.-Amateur/Pro Shop Staff
www.trackbowling.com
www.startabowlingrevolution.com


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Title: Re: Getting a MAchine... NEED HELP!
Post by: SteveAustin2808 on July 14, 2006, 01:29:34 AM
Hey Guys,

You know Carl the more I start thinking about it, you are correct my friend! Keeping the pin low might be more beneficial to the lad! What kind of thoughts were going through my head earlier I have no clue. I guess the Pin Above idea just sounded right at the time! Oh well, lessons learned! LOL!

God Bless You All and have a great week!

--Michael--
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What Are You Waiting For? Get on the FASTTrack to success!!

Track -- Building success stories, one bowler at a time!

Track -- YOU JUST CAN'T BEAT THAT!!!

McCorvey's Pro Shop Supporter
http://http://www.mccorveysproshop.com/

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