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Title: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 04, 2007, 01:06:07 PM
While making my second run on the Chameleon, things started off perfectly.  Practice was awesome, and so was opening with the first 4 strikes.  I was using my Mean Machine (2000).  I started off at 25, targeted 19, rolled to 15, 10 in the pit each time.  I step up in the 5th and as a I release, I felt and even heard my wrist pop.

I step up in the 6th, and can't even hold the ball in my hand.  On the way home, my wrist swells to at least twice its size.  Whereas it's too late to go to a hospital, I will be going first thing in the A.M. and see waht the deal is....

All I know is, this sucks.
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-131 (3 games) 1st time on Chameleon, and I just could not match up at all.  6/4/07-Chameleon again
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: J_Mac on June 04, 2007, 09:14:04 PM
The joys of being a cranker... live hard, die fast.
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: sdbowler on June 04, 2007, 09:20:57 PM
Ouch that sucks, best of luck.
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: astroboy on June 04, 2007, 09:24:07 PM
Sorry to hear that, wish you good luck.
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: charlest on June 04, 2007, 09:57:36 PM
sorry to hear that, Good luck at the emergency room.

Please follow the doctor's advice and get yourself a good orthopaedic surgeon. from previous experiences, wouldn't be surprised if you popped yourself a tendon. Go slowly!!!
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Edited on 6/4/2007 9:55 PM
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xfest on June 04, 2007, 09:59:43 PM
Thats when you know you got revs.
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: J_Mac on June 04, 2007, 10:10:50 PM
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xfest on June 04, 2007, 10:23:55 PM
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on June 04, 2007, 10:43:58 PM
I am sorry to hear that bud. Hopefully things are not as bad as you think.

-Carl
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Youngstown Ohio


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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 05, 2007, 08:10:59 AM
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Thats when you know you had revs.
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Lol, yeah tell me about it.

Saw the doc today.  He took X-rays and all that good stuff.  Nothing broken, range of motion still good, just sore.  He says it's a bad sprain, wrapped me up, and told me to chill for a while.

So, I don't know what I'm going to do with my Mondays and Thursdays yet...
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-131 (3 games) 1st time on Chameleon, and I just could not match up at all.  6/4/07-Chameleon again
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: WSUstroker on June 05, 2007, 08:53:19 AM
You have 2 hands don't you?
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: tenpinspro on June 05, 2007, 09:22:45 AM
Hey X,

Sorry to hear this.  A few years back I took my "orginal" clear plastic Gem Tek 15lbs which had a longer span and threw it for kicks...I pulled my tendon in 8 shots...out for 6 weeks (but I "AM" old)

I highly recommend once you come back, come back slowly...lighter weight just to start and then work your way back in.  I also do not know if you use any type of wrist support or elbow support but my friends (John Forst-wrist surgery, Tony Cariello-big cranker..both National PBA in the 80's) "made" me wear the "Lou Scalia splint (actually met the man a couple of yrs ago)" when I was a kid and told me it would help me stay in the game.  They were right....

This tool ties down wrist and forearm muscles which helps keep our tendons from expanding and contracting too much which is what also causes the problem or soreness.   Bascically any type of wrist support would help along with a "tennis" elbow support band to help keep the tendons tied down.

Good luck and wish you a speedy recovery...
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 05, 2007, 04:05:17 PM
Thanks.  I actually have the Master wrist support, but stopped wearing it two months ago when I learned you couldn't use their products in Regionals.  The good thing that happened when I stopped wearing it, was that my hand stopped swelling.  Bad thing was, well, the effect on my wrist of course.

I feel pretty okay so far.  I called my Thursday team, and let them know they may want to have a sub on hand.
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-131 (3 games) 1st time on Chameleon, and I just could not match up at all.  6/4/07-Chameleon again
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: MC on June 05, 2007, 10:27:02 PM
It would be best to not even try to bowl if it is still "angry". Once it is in a damaged state, you will just cause more damage. Sprains can become a long lasting problem if ignored and you do not want to risk being laid up for an extended period. Especially if one or two weeks off, with icing and rest will eliminate the irritation. Once the irritation is gone (no more pain at rest) start some easy range of motion exercises and probably look into having your grip span checked out, may need to have it shortened a bit. If the tendons and ligaments are not stretched to their limits before the stress is put on the joint the better the body is equiped to handle it.

Good Luck!
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on June 05, 2007, 11:33:56 PM
That is why Rick throws 8lb minnie mouse ball now
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Youngstown Ohio


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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 07, 2007, 07:35:51 AM
Well, it's been a couple of days now, and it seems to feel okay.  I'm gonna assess how I feel after practice today.  I have a sub to fill in for me in worse case scenario.
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-131 (3 games) I don't know.  Just wasn't ready.
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Charles on June 07, 2007, 08:11:46 AM
I did this exact same thing a few years back and it was after only my 2nd practice ball. I ended up finishing the night by keeping ice on my wrist to numb the pain. The next day I went to a doctor who took xrays and said it was a sprain. He advised take 7-10 days off and the whole sprain works. I did this and the pain got minimally better but I still had no strength and couldn't hold a 10lb. bowling ball even palm up much less throw one. I went to a specialist who did the MRI and found that I had tore all of the ligaments and tendons in the wrist. Ended up with surgery and out for awhile. I could tell things were not getting any better so it was a good thing I went to the specialist. Hopefully, you will be fine and not have to go through this ordeal. I had to wear a Pro-Release Extrended for over a year after I came back and thus, I have also dropped to 14lb. which is fine with me. I also wear a Masters Wrister and some sort of Mineral Ice on the wrist prior to bowling just to keep it comfortable to me. Good Luck.
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 07, 2007, 04:58:50 PM
Thanks.  Well, I guess this is fate.  I'm not able to bowl tonight, have to pull in some serious overtime at work...so I'll have another 4 days of rest before I attack the Cheetah in my Monday league-the more important of the two anyway.
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-131 (3 games) I don't know.  Just wasn't ready.
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: tenpinspro on June 07, 2007, 05:54:53 PM
Hey X,

Can you send Carl or myself a vid?...we'll help the best we can until we can come you help you guys personally, thanks.
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Edited on 6/7/2007 5:52 PM
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 07, 2007, 06:06:03 PM
I'm hoping to get some video soon.
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-131 (3 games) I don't know.  Just wasn't ready.
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: clintdaley on June 07, 2007, 09:26:32 PM
X,

be careful when going back to bowling. I tore my bicep tendon clean off my bowling elbow in early October last year. I would have never known it if I did not try to bowl. and still today, if I am not lifting anything heavy, there is ZERO pain 99% of the time. HOWEVER, as soon as I tried to throw a ball, it was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life, hands down. An MRI revealed the tear almost 2 months later after being bounced around from hospital, to emergency room, to family doctor. Finally a sports medicine doctor decided to do an MRI, something the rest neglected to do. I had to switch to lefty as even with surgery to reattach it, there was NO guarantee I would be able to bowl again....

Clint
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 07, 2007, 09:29:15 PM
Damn man, that's horrible.  Maybe I should take this more seriously...
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-131 (3 games) I don't know.  Just wasn't ready.
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: clintdaley on June 07, 2007, 09:38:29 PM
You should, listen to your body. My family doctor, without doing an MRI, said it was tendonitis, rest it for 3-4 weeks, and prescribed me pretasone (sp) its a form of steroids, which is supposed to clean out the tendonitis...well..I took the entire prescription, I felt decent, went out to throw a ball, and the pain was back like never before. I said enough of this and found the closest sports medicine doc, had an appointment, said we need to do an MRI, the next week I was back for the MRI, later that week they revealed the injury...mind you, I did this on Friday, Oct 6th......I went to the hospital, then the emergency room, then my family doc TWICE...by the time I saw the Sports med doc, it was the day before Thanksgiving, the MRI was the following Tuesday, and they called me Thursday with the results...I lost almost 2 months of time of thinking I was ok, when I was not, because I did not go to a Sports med doc or request an MRI....

If you have an MRI, at least you will KNOW if you tore anything or NOT....its your BEST option...

Clint
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on June 07, 2007, 09:52:19 PM
You want to make sure that there is no long term problem. I know for me I hurt my ankel. The doctors said it healed fine. I started bowling like I was and then last year bang I was bowling and all the time of the little pain I would get I pushed on it wrong and really messed it up again. I went to a foot and ankel specialist. He looked at it and he said that the first time it happen the bone wasnt the problem it was the tendents. He said I would need surgery to have it fixed. He also said if I had it I couldnt be able to bowl. So I dont know if you have ever watched my videos but for those who have I know you guys see on my right foot when I walk with it in my approach I have it massivily duck footed. This is to help me not push off of it again and reinjure the tendents. It is something I have to work around in  my physcial game but it is alway better to know what is wrong and how long it will be wrong, then to not have a clue and just be left woundering. If you want to see the foot thing I am talking about, watch I think eather my Robo Rule video or my rule comparison video. One of them should show it real well.
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 11, 2007, 09:14:42 PM
You guys were right.  I took a week off, and had my PBA experience league tonight-On the cheetah, my 2nd favorite pattern anyway.  In practice, I saw right off the bat that I no doubt have wrist issues.  I can't crank anymore, so I had to resort to stroking-bowling wise that is lol.  Anyway, I actually did okay-244,195,229.

Afterwards I called my doc to see the soonest I can get an MRI done.  She'll call me tomorrow and let me know.

Stay tuned.
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-131 (3 games) I don't know.  Just wasn't ready.
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: themagician on June 11, 2007, 10:13:20 PM
Good luck with the MRI Xcessive, I had one on my left wrist 4 months after I had injured it. There were very few things that even bothered it but I bowled lefty one night and it was an excruciating pain I won't forget, I went to the Doc after. Got the MRI and had to have two cortisone shots and therapy due to a partial tear of a tendon. Tendons are interesting because a partial tear can and will heal on its own but surgery can speed up the process though.

Hopefully your injury isn't serious and being able to bowl is good news. Discomfort is still not good as you are not 100%, an MRI will be able to determine if you have a tear for sure and could save you in the long run.
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Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 11, 2007, 11:18:52 PM
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Afterwards I called my doc to see the soonest I can get an MRI done. She'll call me tomorrow and let me know.


Wow...you can call your doctor late at night and get an MRI possibly set up? And I hardly believe you can shoot those numbers on Cheetah if your wrist is hurt....stroker style or not. I smell BS.


Well, being in a squadron in the military, we are assigned a flight surgeon in every air wing.  This flight surgeon is on call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Secondly, you say "possibly get an MRI set up" as if 1)It's impossible (possibly where you come from, but that's neither here nor there) and 2)As if I haven't already been seen and was told what the next step would be if I didn't heal.

Lastly, I fail to realize where the BS is in shooting 668(which was actually one of the lower sets tonight) with a injured wrist.  I guess the guy in my last league, who shot 790 with a huge brace on his left leg is BS too huh?  Do me a favor, and stop drinking that "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about" juice.
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-131 (3 games) I don't know.  Just wasn't ready.
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xfest on June 12, 2007, 12:10:34 AM
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Afterwards I called my doc to see the soonest I can get an MRI done. She'll call me tomorrow and let me know.


Wow...you can call your doctor late at night and get an MRI possibly set up? And I hardly believe you can shoot those numbers on Cheetah if your wrist is hurt....stroker style or not. I smell BS.


Well, being in a squadron in the military, we are assigned a flight surgeon in every air wing.  This flight surgeon is on call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Secondly, you say "possibly get an MRI set up" as if 1)It's impossible (possibly where you come from, but that's neither here nor there) and 2)As if I haven't already been seen and was told what the next step would be if I didn't heal.

Lastly, I fail to realize where the BS is in shooting 668(which was actually one of the lower sets tonight) with a injured wrist.  I guess the guy in my last league, who shot 790 with a huge brace on his left leg is BS too huh?  Do me a favor, and stop drinking that "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about" juice.
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-131 (3 games) I don't know.  Just wasn't ready.


I'd love for you to come down here and bowl, you'd sure be the best in our league.

Ronnie Russell, the 2007-2008 exempt player on tour, struggles to average a 190 in our league. So I doubt what you are bowling on is nothing like down here.
Title: Re: My bowling may have to take a back seat for a long time...
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 12, 2007, 05:38:31 AM
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Ronnie Russell, the 2007-2008 exempt player on tour, struggles to average a 190 in our league. So I doubt what you are bowling on is nothing like down here.


Yeah, I know what you're saying.  Their version of the Cheetah is different than the version I played on a few months back in a different house.  That's the only thing I really don't like about the experience league.  I mean they try, but I know the conditions aren't true PBA patterns.
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627

High game-300
High series-796

Summer THS avg-216(6 games)
PBA Exp. avg-177 (6 games)