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FastTracker33

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Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« on: February 22, 2007, 01:37:00 PM »
This is no rumor. This just came from my proshop guy, Beans' email! I can't believe it.. sorry to break the news to everyone. I've been dying to hear it myself :\ ...

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Subject: TRACK PHOENIX BALL RELEASE

 

Dear Ebonite International, Inc. Consumer Product Distributor:

 

One of the many issues caught in the Columbia transition was the Track Phoenix ball introduction. When asked, we told many of you that we would be testing that ball before making a “go/no-go” decision regarding it’s release. Testing has now been completed. We will not be releasing this ball.

 

Please cancel any orders that you may have placed for the Track Phoenix.

 

There have also been some questions regarding the new Columbia “Ten” ball that was pending introduction. This ball will not be released.

 

Please pass this information on to your pro shop customers as you deem appropriate.

 

Sorry for the abruptness of these announcements, but we felt it very important that we keep you as informed as possible.

 

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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2007, 10:27:46 AM »
heck got a machine brand new never drilled 15lbs and a equation 15lbs...mmm wonder what i could get?
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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2007, 10:31:49 AM »
those 2 are far from rare...yet, they are still on ebay and on multiple internet sites. When a ball stops appearing on ebay, then its rare!! LOL..

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heck got a machine brand new never drilled 15lbs and a equation 15lbs...mmm wonder what i could get?
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trogdor

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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2007, 11:24:51 AM »
Are there any videos of anyone throwing a Phoenix here (for the few that have it)?  I haven't noticed anyone post one yet (unless I missed it).
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directdrill

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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2007, 11:27:10 AM »
Trogdor,

Yes, Carl and Scoot posted a video of the Phoenix.  Here is the link:

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=152330&ForumID=14&CategoryID=2
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trogdor

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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2007, 11:41:12 AM »
Thanks, I must have horrible searching skills or "phoenix video" wasn't a good enough search query
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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2007, 12:25:42 PM »
We all knew it was going to happen.
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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2007, 01:54:06 AM »
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Does this mean the Phoenix I have coming next Wednesday will be worth $600 like the NV that sold on ebay yesterday?

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That's what I want to know because I'm getting one in the mail soon too
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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2007, 11:45:22 AM »
That is sad news. I really like Track equipment. Forget Ebonite.

I did find this out: If you match up well with Track, give Morich a try. You won't regret it. The Awesome series are well designed/engineered balls.












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cficare068

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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2007, 12:17:31 PM »
Geez that sucks. The Phoenix was the First Track ball that I was actually excited about in a while.  I was actually planning on getting one.
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Mvpbowler

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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2007, 12:26:10 PM »
I believe you still can.. If you go to bowlinglasvegas.com, I believe they still have some available..
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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2007, 12:38:35 PM »
I have a feeling that it's nothing "sinister" going on. I believe that Ebonite just decided that it would be easier to cancel the Phoenix than spend the time and effort trying to match the coverstock Track came up with. Plus, given their success as of late, I have to believe that a bit of hubris might be present; the idea that "we can do better". From what I've been reading, Ebonite is going to continue the Track line but with their own formulations. For better or worse I guess. It's too bad as the Phoenix was quite interesting.

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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2007, 12:42:00 PM »
Yes it is sad.  The ball is very nice from what Carl has been relaying to me.  He's been shooting lights out in a few different houses with this piece.  I never did receive mine.  They said they under produced due to large distributor buy ins which (business wise) if I were Ebonite, I'd fulfill these orders at San Antonio (because Col can duplicate these without a problem), keep my distributors happy which in turn would keep the public happy. After this, proceed with my own designs for the future, doesn't that make more sense instead of losing out on all the sales that your customers want?  I don't know guys....makes me think twice about joining this team.  

A piece of inside info, reps from companies are pumped to push product to distributors (not easy to do).  Distributors have learned in the past that some pieces will sell well and some don't, simple as that.  They get stuck blowing out and losing money on some pieces so when you have a very good distributor buy-in (a manufacturer's primary customer), it's very important to keep that customer happy, right?  

I feel Phil has made a very good piece here, get yours while you can.  I'm still going to try...
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williewc

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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2007, 02:21:53 PM »
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I believe you still can.. If you go to bowlinglasvegas.com, I believe they still have some available..
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yeah i emailed them and he said he had 14, 15, 16 lbs available, $175 plus shipping is the price he told me

thinking about getting one for nationals, just gotta come up with the money now lol
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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2007, 03:09:36 PM »
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I believe you still can.. If you go to bowlinglasvegas.com, I believe they still have some available..
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yeah i emailed them and he said he had 14, 15, 16 lbs available, $175 plus shipping is the price he told me

thinking about getting one for nationals, just gotta come up with the money now lol


If they quoted you $175 plus shipping you got a better deal than me. Don't know who you talked to, but both the owner and his helper quoted me a different price.

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Re: Phoenix, 10, Bad News :\
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2007, 04:55:26 PM »
They might not have the oil absorbtion that the one series has. :rolls eyes:

Bunch of crap.
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