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chitown

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will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« on: November 22, 2008, 03:59:11 AM »
do you think Ebonite will bring back any of Tracks old cores?  I would love to see the Animal core in a newer reactive coverstock.

 

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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2008, 10:25:20 PM »
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Acetone also dissolves the ball. Eventually the ball will hook about as much as a glass marble, plus acetone voids the warranty.
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I agree.  Not to mention it's just about as silly as putting it in the oven.  I have a few balls that are about 2+ years old that I still use very often and I use the simple energizer cleaner on them.  They have never been resurfaced or put in a hook-it chamber and the still hook hard.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2008, 11:02:21 AM »
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Acetone also dissolves the ball. Eventually the ball will hook about as much as a glass marble, plus acetone voids the warranty.
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I agree.  Not to mention it's just about as silly as putting it in the oven.  I have a few balls that are about 2+ years old that I still use very often and I use the simple energizer cleaner on them.  They have never been resurfaced or put in a hook-it chamber and the still hook hard.
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Ya but you have a silly amount of hand in the ball, X. You could probably make a white dot look like a monster if you really wanted to.

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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2008, 11:15:49 AM »
Back to the cores versus whining about cleaning...

The multi-density/sectional cores from Track/Columbia are not going to be used by Ebonite because like stated above, manufacturing is a pain and there are too many problems with separation. Today's technology is about geometry and single density cores. Don't look for these cores again excpet maybe from Global900 in the future, if even that.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2008, 11:31:34 AM »
I just drilled a replacement ball for a guy that put his ball in the oven at 140° to pull the oil out. He said he got quite a bit of the oil out. Went to throw it and the ball split, the crack was about 9" long. So I sold him a Kinetic Energy, micro fiber towel, and a bottle of Energizer Cleaner.

I bet he will be pretty good about cleaning his ball from now on.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2008, 09:03:28 AM »
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I just drilled a replacement ball for a guy that put his ball in the oven at 140° to pull the oil out. He said he got quite a bit of the oil out. Went to throw it and the ball split, the crack was about 9" long. So I sold him a Kinetic Energy, micro fiber towel, and a bottle of Energizer Cleaner.

I bet he will be pretty good about cleaning his ball from now on.
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Hello Rick

Nice tri oval drilling machine you got there

Its amazing how many people are willing to put their bowling balls into home ovens. Warm water baths seem to be a much safer method for home use to extract oil.  Maybe someone needs to come up with a product to market a warm bath method system for pro shop use.  Until then its just selling cleaner for league maintence and letting the bowlers know the consequences of using non approved cleaning techniques and the consequences they could lead too.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2008, 09:38:08 AM »
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I just drilled a replacement ball for a guy that put his ball in the oven at 140° to pull the oil out. He said he got quite a bit of the oil out. Went to throw it and the ball split, the crack was about 9" long. So I sold him a Kinetic Energy, micro fiber towel, and a bottle of Energizer Cleaner.

I bet he will be pretty good about cleaning his ball from now on.
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I agree that it will crack if you are not careful but I have been doing this for a long time. If you set it to 140 degrees, close the door and walk away while the ball gets toasted then it will break into pieces. I leave the door open and as the oil starts to come to the surface, I keep taking it out and wiping it down. The only thing that gets warm is the surface. I don't let it get too hot and it works great. It's the same thing as running it on those rejuvenator ovens as long as you don't let the ball get too hot.

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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2008, 04:16:32 PM »
funny seems to me if your gonna spend $120+ for a bowling ball in the first place....why not spend the $20 to $30 bucks for the rejuvie oven to safely take out the oil when need be...????putting the ball in the oven and dishwasher might work....but why chance it???
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2008, 05:54:56 PM »
Russ.... Thanks Again for all your help!

The machine is top notch with the addition of the Tri-Oval Jig!!!
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2008, 01:54:09 PM »
Back to the cores...Ebonite did not purchase the Del/Mo cores..I believe Phil might have...I'm not sure about that though...


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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2008, 12:10:48 AM »
From what I have been told, the core designs were acquired by Ebonite in the take over of Track/Columbia. Also, a royalty was paid to Mo Pinel each time a core that he designed was used. As far as bringing back multi-density cores, the same numbers can be achieved from single density cores. I think days of the multi-density cores in the old Track are gone. That's not to say that another company couldn't produce a core similar in design to the old multi-density cores in the future, but I think that is unlikely for the most part. This may have already been discussed in a previous post, so I apologize if I stepped on anyone's toes.
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chitown

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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2008, 07:07:53 PM »
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 Its amazing how many people are willing to put their bowling balls into home ovens. Warm water baths seem to be a much safer method for home use to extract oil. Maybe someone needs to come up with a product to market a warm bath method system for pro shop use. Until then its just selling cleaner for league maintainence and letting the bowlers know the consequences of using non approved cleaning techniques and the consequences they could lead too.



The rejuvenator does the job safely.  

No reason to market the hot water bath method because anyone can buy a bucket and place it under their bath tub faucet.  It's the simple!  Place the ball into the bucket, under the bath tub faucet, turn on the hot water, let it fill the bucket and run over the top into the drain.  When the hot water runs out remove the ball from the bucket and wipe off with a towel!  Done!  That seems pretty simple too me.

For better results sand the ball to 360 grit before placing into the bucket.  Repeat the hot water bath method several times when first using this method.  Repeat process every 75 games or so.

Edited on 12/18/2008 8:20 AM