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PJM300

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Mutant vs Superfreak vs Phenom
« on: November 23, 2003, 04:10:38 AM »
Of the above 3 which would be able to handle a HEAVY oil situation the best.  Heavy with carrydown.

Im guessing Superfreak beacause of its earlier roll characteristic.

Has anyone thrown all 3 and have an opinion


 

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Re: Mutant vs Superfreak vs Phenom
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2003, 12:06:58 AM »
PJM, if I remember correctly you bought my SuperFreak. It handled heavy oil just fine. The Phenom though is definately more of a heavy oil ball. Kick the MB close to your VAL and it will roll very early and very strong with no quit. I like the Phenom better because it is more playable from a deep inside line.
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Re: Mutant vs Superfreak vs Phenom
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2003, 09:11:55 AM »
Well seeing as though I have never thrown a Mutant, I cant account for that ball. But I have thrown both the SF and the Phenom. My take on them is that the SF is by far a much better heavy oil ball than the Phenom. While the Phenom has more hooking potential and will cover more boards, the SF will start up earlier and that is what you want for heavy oil, especially with carrydown. I had my Phenom drilled very aggressively, pin under ring, mb on my VAL and this ball didnt start up as early as I wanted it to. I think that is due to the lighter load of particle in the coverstock. The particles are bigger but there are less.

The SF is a higher load coverstock and even though the core wont allow the ball to be as angular, it will hook a bunch. It covers its boards over a longer part of the lane. The SF will roll early. I had my SF drilled similar to the Phenom and the SF was much better for heavy oil/carrydown. It began to roll about 5 ft earlier than the Phenom.

Also as a side note, I know everyone is different, but I found both coverstocks to skid too far in box finish. I took both of them down with a green scotch brite and put Doc's Elixir on them and the were much better. I personally liked the SF better for the heavy stuff. Hope this helps.
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Re: Mutant vs Superfreak vs Phenom
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2003, 04:50:14 AM »
PMJ300,

The Super Freak definately rolls earlier and more stable while the Phenom is able to get down the lane and store more energy.  If you have a sufficient amount of dry in the backend with heavy fronts, the Phenom may actually be able to turn over and cover more boards then the SuperFreak.  If it's a complete flood, the SuperFreak would be a better choice.  The Mutant is still for med to med-heavy depending upon your tilt, speed and rev rate.  

Here's a description I give my customers.  Imagine driving our car w/ all season tires on them doing 65 left around a bend and we hit 10 feet of light snow, the tires would actually lose friction, spin up(store energy) and slip for a second until we hit dry road again and the car would then physically grab and jump left once it grabbed dry pavement causing the backend to fish-tail. This is the effect of any object that can store energy and once it can create friction, it will jump toward the direction it is aimed.  Now imagine we had snow tires on our car going through the exact same scenario, instead of the tires slipping, we'd just gradually make the turn around the bend as if nothing were there.  This is how I define the difference between basic resin or anything that can store energy vs heavier particle or something dull that is designed to create early friction and traction.  This is why there's some confusion at times for bowlers who purchase high load particle balls and think that they create the same look as their resin equipment but in heavy oil.  Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.  When we change our cars to snow tires, we don't want the car to slide 40 feet and then pick up.  We want immediate friction and traction, well, that's what we get when we pick up heavier load particle balls.  Due to this type of reaction, there is also another deceiving part of this, at times, depending upon the condition, a resin ball/polished particle can actually open up a backend more then a dull/heavier particle ball.  If the pattern is flat (1 to 1 for 38feet) hypothetically speaking, a resin or polished particle can store up revs for the 38 feet and once it hits the backend end, it makes a tremendous jump to the left where a dull particle ball actually looks to remain more stable.  What's happening is that the dull particle ball is making the same imprint from oil to dry therefore causing it to remain stable and have more of a constant movement vs the snap, just like our snow tires transition from light snow to dry pavement again.  Hope I didn't confuse you with this, feel free to contact me if you need any further assistance.
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