I was debating on getting this ball or The Urge first and honestly I let my wife pick as she liked the colors better on The Legion. I'm glad she made the choice she did. I drilled it 70 x 5 1/2 x 40 which puts the mass bias in the thumb hole for me. Had games of 269 258 278 for an 805. Ball is very clean and predictable. I will say the one thing i notice the most is the way it goes through the pins is a little bit different than other balls i have thrown. Now i can't wait for my Paradox to get here any day now!