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cd

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Surface preparation
« on: October 31, 2005, 07:01:49 AM »
I have an Arsenal Reactive and an original Xception.  They usually complement each other very well.  After a while the total hook from the AR gets similar to the Xception.  Is this because the AR shines up over time?

How often should I dull down the AR to keep its expected reaction?  Is there such a thing as dulling it too often?

Is there anything I should watch out for with the Xception, similar to this?  I just got the Desert Heat for my dry lane ball and man does it hit hard.  It is great.

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Re: Surface preparation
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2005, 03:15:44 PM »
Hey cd,

There could be a couple of things happening, 1) the lane dries up and the AR is actually creating friction earlier so it is actually expending some of it's energy faster and not storing until the backend. 2) The ball can and will soak up oil, that's how it creates friction in order to hook.  Question, is it shinier now then when you first used it when it was hooking a lot?

 
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How often should I dull down the AR to keep its expected reaction? Is there such a thing as dulling it too often?


You just answered the question pretty much, when you start seeing a difference or lack of reaction, then it is most likely time to clean or dull the ball back down.

All resin balls soak in oil with use, too hard to say what maintenance is necessary per bowler due to the different conditions that everyone bowls on.  Safe side is to clean it after every set you bowl so that it can maintain that good/strong reaction you are used to seeing on a regular basis.  Hope this helps explain some bud..
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Re: Surface preparation
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2005, 05:32:17 PM »
In addition to all the perfect things Rick said, certain, in fact, many house oil patterns can make many balls react in a very similar fashion. Be aware of that possibility and keep a sharp eye on your balls' surfaces. Oil will give the ball a reflective look similar to a polish, but it is just the oil sitting on the ball's surface; WIPE that ball off IMMEDIATELY!
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Re: Surface preparation
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2005, 08:24:20 PM »
Also, use tracks clean and dull after use!!!!
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cd

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Re: Surface preparation
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2005, 10:49:21 AM »
Does Clean and Dull just clean the ball?  Does it take it back to the factory surface too, or just whatever surface was there?  For example, if I dull my AR to 800 and then use Clean and Dull, what will it do to the surface?

Can I use Clean and Dull on all of my equipment, such as the Xception and Desert Heat, or should I use something else?  I am not sure what the word "Dull" implies, in the name Clean and Dull.

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Re: Surface preparation
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2005, 11:15:27 AM »
Hey cd,

Have no fear...you can use Clean and Dull on every surface without altering it.  In regards to your Reactive, it may pick up some oil (and get shiny) and if you use C&D on it, it will remove that oil and dirt so it may restore it back to that 800 grit look.  Some people have thought that C&D actually dulls a ball in this type of case.  In actuality it is simply removing the dirt and oil and restores a ball back to whatever cover was truly there....
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cd

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Re: Surface preparation
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2005, 11:50:00 AM »
Rick,

  What other different cleaners/polishes are there, from Track, and what are their intended uses?  

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Chuck

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Re: Surface preparation
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2005, 10:13:06 AM »
Hey Chuck,

Check out these links....

http://trackbowling.com/gear/cleaners.cfm

http://trackbowling.com/gear/polishes.cfm
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Re: Surface preparation
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2005, 01:45:36 PM »
Hey cd...
I really like the clean and dull to remove the oil. I have a spinner but seem to get better results applying by the hand method about half of the ball at a time. I love the Clean-n-Sheen which is a compound that leaves a light shine after applied with the spinner. My Blue Heat was great for about one game then seemed to loose backend reaction in transition. In my opoiniion the blue was actually loading up with oil after the firt game. I wet sanded the ball with 400 grit and applied Clean-n-Sheen. The Blue Heat stays strong for three games if needed. My original Rule stays consistant with the clean-n-Sheen. I am giving away all of my track secrets to the trackers, that most know already.LOL
good luck,
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