BallReviews

Equipment Boards => Track => Topic started by: TheDude on October 28, 2008, 05:52:58 AM

Title: Uprising SE
Post by: TheDude on October 28, 2008, 05:52:58 AM: I recieved an email today from distributor about this ball. Its a pearl uprising sport edition. supposed to combat tougher conditions.
--------------------
Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec
Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta.
Located inside Ed''s Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
King Of Roto-Grip In Canada.
Keep them honest!

www.juniorsproshop.com now open serving the world.
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: neverbackdown_x7x on October 28, 2008, 07:08:19 PM: Could be an overseas ball. Don't see anything else about it on the web.
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: LaneHammer20 on October 29, 2008, 08:09:29 AM: If this is an US release. THAT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!
--------------------
What is sandbagging???
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: InternationalBowler on November 04, 2008, 08:26:33 AM: Rising SE
Core: Mega Tron
Cover: HP Gen 2 - Reactive Pearl - 4000 Abralon
Color: Red
RG: 2.47
Diff: 0.057
Intermediate Diff: 0.035

WWRD Nov. 27.
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 04, 2008, 10:22:18 AM: quote:
Rising SE
Core: Mega Tron
Cover: HP Gen 2 - Reactive Pearl - 4000 Abralon
Color: Red
RG: 2.47
Diff: 0.057
Intermediate Diff: 0.035

WWRD Nov. 27.

Hmm. I may want to work with this. I was hoping for another solid I will admit.
--------------------
Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: neverbackdown_x7x on November 04, 2008, 03:21:34 PM: quote:
Hmm. I may want to work with this. I was hoping for another solid I will admit.
--------------------
Does it really matter?

Same here, thought the Rising replacement would be a heavier oil solid. But the MB ratings on some of these balls keeps getting higher and higher.
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 04, 2008, 03:25:15 PM: quote:

Same here, thought the Rising replacement would be a heavier oil solid.

Nice to see I'm not the only one who feels this way.
--------------------
Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: astroboy on November 04, 2008, 08:23:59 PM: http://www.absbowling.co.jp/products/balls/2008/rising_se/index.html

Here is how it looks like!!
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: TWOHAND834 on November 04, 2008, 08:28:52 PM: Colors look reminiscent of the Triton Heat. Good looking ball and looking forward to the release.
--------------------
Steven Vance
Pro Shop Operator

If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: JS on November 04, 2008, 10:56:57 PM: Did you notice on their comparison chart that they are showing it to be around 5 boards stronger than the Up-Rising?
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: charlest on November 04, 2008, 11:04:47 PM: quote:
Did you notice on their comparison chart that they are showing it to be around 5 boards stronger than the Up-Rising?

John,

If your UpRising hooks any more, you'll be stand on the left lane's approach to throw yours!
--------------------
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 05, 2008, 07:44:23 AM: With that RG rating, it's very well possible.

I can already envision a layout similar to my Kinetic Energy.
--------------------
Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Guined on November 05, 2008, 11:02:22 AM: It's now posted on the main page of the Track website. Plus the link to a video.
--------------------
Rick Guined

Owner/Operator: New Millennium Proshop
Track Regional Staff Player
Vise PBA Regional Staff Player
www.trackbowling.com

Edited on 11/5/2008 12:02 PM
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: pnj1967 on November 05, 2008, 11:32:33 AM: http://trackbowling.com/track_tv/video_detail/rising_se/1/17/
--------------------
Enjoy the people on the ballreview.com forum. Like to help when I can.
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 05, 2008, 11:46:02 AM: I saw it. I'd like to see how it would react with a different layout. Goes way too long for my tastes.
--------------------
Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: mmcfarland300 on November 05, 2008, 02:43:08 PM: 7 pound core.....interesting
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 05, 2008, 02:47:20 PM: The Rising and UpRising has a 7lb core as well.
--------------------
Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on November 05, 2008, 02:56:18 PM: quote:
Colors look reminiscent of the Triton Heat. Good looking ball and looking forward to the release.
--------------------
Steven Vance
Pro Shop Operator

If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!

The ball looks more like the old Flare, in terms of color. It is good looking, IMHO. I cant wait to see this thing in my hand.
--------------------
Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.

Tag Team Coaching Success Story.

Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."

http://www.c-gproshop.com/
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 05, 2008, 03:03:22 PM: quote:

You can't wait to see several cheeseburgers in your hand.

I actually found that absolutely hilarious.
--------------------
Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: dw23 on November 05, 2008, 03:04:40 PM: Looks like the old Synergy ETS to me.

Hope it gets down the lane further but keeps the back end of the UpRising. Still would love to see a stronger solid cover on that core but I will definitely take this right now.
--------------------
DW
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on November 05, 2008, 03:29:55 PM: quote:
Looks like the old Synergy ETS to me.

Hope it gets down the lane further but keeps the back end of the UpRising. Still would love to see a stronger solid cover on that core but I will definitely take this right now.
--------------------
DW

I can see how the photos can make it look that way but it is more of a red tinted copper. It really does look like a Flare.
--------------------
Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.

Tag Team Coaching Success Story.

Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."

http://www.c-gproshop.com/
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on November 05, 2008, 06:37:42 PM: quote:
quote:
quote:
Colors look reminiscent of the Triton Heat. Good looking ball and looking forward to the release.
--------------------
Steven Vance
Pro Shop Operator

If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!

The ball looks more like the old Flare, in terms of color. It is good looking, IMHO. I cant wait to see this thing in my hand.
--------------------
Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.

Tag Team Coaching Success Story.

Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."

http://www.c-gproshop.com/

You can't wait to see several cheeseburgers in your hand.

No, I am more like Rick. A good ole plate of Shrimp fried Rice would work.
--------------------
Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.

Tag Team Coaching Success Story.

Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."

http://www.c-gproshop.com/
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Grayson on November 06, 2008, 01:16:00 AM: just a dumb question.... bit of confused here...

how do those three Risings stand to each other... in what line and on what conditions are those three supposed to work...
okok
the rising's for oil... though I find most people here play it on med
the Uprisin I haven't seen yet and now I read the
Pearl version... the SE is stronger than the UP?

*rubs his eyes*
--------------------
Sebastian Koch
"Have fun and bowl well!" - Grayson
"Some things are made so even idiots won't fail using them.... But I ask what about the genius?" - Grayson

(\_/)
(x_x)
c(')(')

Unoffical Ballreviews.com FAQ (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=74110&ForumID=16&CategoryID=5")
Hot Water Bath - instructions and experience (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=199058&ForumID=17&CategoryID=5")

Bowling lessons and tips VIDEOS - VERY GOOD! (http://"http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=BowltechBowlingTips&p=r")
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: louf846 on November 06, 2008, 08:58:28 AM: Diff on the 15 is .056 per the video. I imagine it is close to that.
--------------------
Louis Franzetti

Track Regional Staff Member
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 06, 2008, 11:27:35 AM: quote:
just a dumb question.... bit of confused here...
how do those three Risings stand to each other... in what line and on what conditions are those three supposed to work...
okok
the rising's for oil... though I find most people here play it on med
the Uprisin I haven't seen yet and now I read the
Pearl version... the SE is stronger than the UP?
*rubs his eyes*

I can use both the Rising and UpRising for heavy oil. I have both with the same layout and the with the Rising I have to stand generally 3 boards further left than I do with the UpRising.

I saw the video that you saw. And the Rising SE appears to much stronger than the UpRising. I'd love to see a comparison to the Rising so I can get a better look on how strong the staffers claim this ball will be. If what they claim is true, then the order should be Rising-SE, Rising, UpRising. But that is also based on them having the same layout and same surface.
--------------------
Does it really matter?

Edited on 11/6/2008 12:28 PM
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: LaneHammer20 on November 06, 2008, 11:40:20 AM: I really don't see the pearl being stronger than both the solids, or either. It might have more backend reaction, but once you get on some soup the Uprising and Rising will take over from there.
--------------------
What is sandbagging???
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: louf846 on November 06, 2008, 12:27:35 PM: Hopefully within a week or so, some of us staffers can give you some real world comparisons.
Just based on what I see from core numbers and coverstock... The coverstock is Generation 2 with performance pearl (pearlized version of the UpRising cover). The UpRising cover retained energy better then the Rising cover. Add the pearl to it and it should retain energy even better. 2.49 RG falls right in between the Rising and UpRising (2.5 and 2.48 respectively). The diff is fairly comparible to the UpRising and the mass bias strength was pushed up just a touch. My guess based on these things is that I am going to see a little bit greater ease through the fronts with the SE which will allow you to play deeper angles and get greater entry angle. I can't use my UpRising or Rising from deeper than 20 at the arrows because I don't generate enough tilt to get the ball to save up and corner hard enough. I expect this ball, for me, to be the logical ball switch after the UpRising starts to burn up a little when the heads go and the bakcends are not clean enough to move in and boom it. I expect it to allow me to open up the lane more.
I also absolutely love strong cored pearl balls with RG ratings around 2.5 so I expect to love this ball!
--------------------
Louis Franzetti

Track Regional Staff Member
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: dw23 on November 06, 2008, 12:37:15 PM: quote:
Hopefully within a week or so, some of us staffers can give you some real world comparisons.
Just based on what I see from core numbers and coverstock... The coverstock is Generation 2 with performance pearl (pearlized version of the UpRising cover). The UpRising cover retained energy better then the Rising cover. Add the pearl to it and it should retain energy even better. 2.49 RG falls right in between the Rising and UpRising (2.5 and 2.48 respectively). The diff is fairly comparable to the UpRising and the mass bias strength was pushed up just a touch. My guess based on these things is that I am going to see a little bit greater ease through the fronts with the SE which will allow you to play deeper angles and get greater entry angle. I can't use my UpRising or Rising from deeper than 20 at the arrows because I don't generate enough tilt to get the ball to save up and corner hard enough. I expect this ball, for me, to be the logical ball switch after the UpRising starts to burn up a little when the heads go and the backends are not clean enough to move in and boom it. I expect it to allow me to open up the lane more.
I also absolutely love strong cored pearl balls with RG ratings around 2.5 so I expect to love this ball!
--------------------
Louis Franzetti

Track Regional Staff Member

Although I didn't expect the next ball to be a pearl it should be a great addition. This is what I wanted when the UpRising was released. If you are right Louis this ball will fall right in line with my arsenal under the Complete NV and UpRising when I need to move deeper.
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: rackattack on November 06, 2008, 12:50:38 PM: quote:
I can't use my UpRising or Rising from deeper than 20 at the arrows because I don't generate enough tilt to get the ball to save up and corner hard enough. I expect this ball, for me, to be the logical ball switch after the UpRising starts to burn up a little when the heads go and the bakcends are not clean enough to move in and boom it. I expect it to allow me to open up the lane more.
I also absolutely love strong cored pearl balls with RG ratings around 2.5 so I expect to love this ball!
--------------------

That has been my experience also and I haven't been able to find a goto ball without losing a couple of frames finding the new line.
I am hoping,like you,that the pearl will fill that spot.
Looking forward to your comments when you've had a chance to work with the SE.
--------------------

It's all about the X
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 06, 2008, 12:55:31 PM: quote:
I can't use my Rising from deeper than 20

Strangely, I've not been able to use it at all lately. I think I'm killing the energy out of the ball. My Kinetic Energy has been out hooking the Rising lately.
--------------------
Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: louf846 on November 06, 2008, 04:46:43 PM: I got mine today, too late to punch it up for league tonight. I will have it ready for Monday. Monday I bowl on old wood, third shift league plus they get open play. There is usually plenty to fall it back on front 25 but it is hard to get the ball to corner with 3 shifts of carry down. Will be a good indicator of what it will do. I will post a review as soon as I can.
--------------------
Louis Franzetti

Track Regional Staff Member
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: RCKYURWLD on November 06, 2008, 05:51:33 PM: All I know is after throwing the Up Rising, I will have to get the SE and will probably drill it the same. This way, I'll already know what It will give me. That roll shape is a different look for me and it fits nicely.....
--------------------

Randy

Proud Member of the Track Legion

See profile for arsenal. Links to PICs and Descriptions are posted. I have a few Pics posted of each ball.
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: kidlost2000 on November 07, 2008, 09:00:09 PM: Flare is to brown/copper. Looks closer to the Heat in the vid.
--------------------
" hand, don't step on the lanes without some "
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on November 08, 2008, 01:13:54 AM: quote:
Flare is to brown/copper. Looks closer to the Heat in the vid.
--------------------
" hand, don't step on the lanes without some "

The video makes it come of very red. In person it looks copper with some red tint.
--------------------
Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.

Tag Team Coaching Success Story.

Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."

http://www.c-gproshop.com/
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: louf846 on November 08, 2008, 07:12:06 PM: I think if you shined the ball up, some more of the red will come out. It is very smooth at 4000 but does have a dull look to it. It looks like it will strike a lot. Mine has lines on it, I can't wait to drill it up Monday!
--------------------
Louis Franzetti

Track Regional Staff Member
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: NtheDitch on November 08, 2008, 07:19:33 PM: Lou are you at Hindle monday night?
--------------------
"Don"t leave it if you can't pick it up"
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 08, 2008, 10:55:49 PM: quote:
I think if you shined the ball up, some more of the red will come out. It is very smooth at 4000 but does have a dull look to it. It looks like it will strike a lot. Mine has lines on it, I can't wait to drill it up Monday!
--------------------
Louis Franzetti

Track Regional Staff Member

What layout are you putting on it. I'm thinking of going with the same layout I have on my Kinetic energy.
--------------------
Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: chatnboy on November 09, 2008, 01:00:49 AM: LL....."I love the hitting power of my Uprising!",DITTO for me also.i love this ball so much...i cant wait to get the Rising-SE to complement my Up-rising!!!i dont know what drilling to get on it....but i will probably get a similiar one to my Up-rising which has a modified #1 drilling on it.because of pin placement i couldnt get the #1 drilling on it so my pro shop guy modiifed and i love that drilling so much...!!!but if they have the same drilling for the Rising-SE i will make sure i can the right pin placement and get that #1 drilling on it!!!!boy am i'm salivating for this ball!!!

--------------------
Go Hard or Go Home!!!Bowl Your Best...ALWAYS!!!
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: louf846 on November 09, 2008, 09:24:01 AM: quote:
Lou are you at Hindle monday night?
--------------------
"Don"t leave it if you can't pick it up"

Yes, in the trios league at 8:45.
--------------------
Louis Franzetti

Track Regional Staff Member
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: louf846 on November 09, 2008, 09:26:59 AM: quote:
quote:
I think if you shined the ball up, some more of the red will come out. It is very smooth at 4000 but does have a dull look to it. It looks like it will strike a lot. Mine has lines on it, I can't wait to drill it up Monday!
--------------------
Louis Franzetti

Track Regional Staff Member

What layout are you putting on it. I'm thinking of going with the same layout I have on my Kinetic energy.
--------------------
Does it really matter?

It should come out to basically a 5 X 4 layout. It is a modified #1 layout where the pin will be on my center line but two inches up from grip center versus 1. The mass bias is three inches from center line, should put it at about 45-50 degrees and about 4 inches from PAP. I don't think I have ever had a ball with this layout that wasn't good so thought it would be a good starting point. After the release date, I will drill a second with a taller pin.
--------------------
Louis Franzetti

Track Regional Staff Member
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 09, 2008, 07:38:24 PM: I'm looking forward to getting mine when I get back from the Armed Forces tournament next month.
--------------------
Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: TheDude on November 10, 2008, 01:18:43 PM: The ball reaction didn't blow me away but the way the video and audio was presented impressed me. Her voice over actually was very appealing.
--------------------
Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec
Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta.
Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
King Of Roto-Grip In Canada.
Keep them honest!

www.juniorsproshop.com now open serving the world.
Title: Re: Uprising SE
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on November 10, 2008, 02:08:29 PM: quote:
The ball reaction didn't blow me away but the way the video and audio was presented impressed me. Her voice over actually was very appealing.
--------------------
Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec
Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta.
Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
King Of Roto-Grip In Canada.
Keep them honest!

www.juniorsproshop.com now open serving the world.

If you happen to have one, I'll gladly take it off of your hands.
--------------------
Does it really matter?