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We have never seen anything like this...
« on: July 01, 2009, 06:02:29 AM »
I drilled up my first 930T this past Friday.  I opted to go 4x3x3.  The reaction shape of this piece is something that we haven't seen.  The ball picks up and reads the mids very well.  The shocker is at the bottom of the pattern...the ball flies off the spot.  The fact that there is no loss of energy with this cover is remarkable.  I suspect that this ball will out hook and out hit anything we'll see this year.  Those who bought Cells and Virtuals will forget that they ever owned them.  This very well could be the Ball Of The Year.

To the gang at the factory...I honestly think we've done it.  This is a grand slam piece.

Myself and other Staffers will be reporting back very soon with detailed reviews of the 930T.
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Re: We have never seen anything like this...
« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2009, 05:42:13 PM »
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I don't remember ever seeing the VG thrown on tour, just Storms lower end stuff mostly.


Off the top of my head, both Scroggins and O'Neill throw the VG sometimes, and I thought I saw Mika throwing it recently also.

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Re: We have never seen anything like this...
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2009, 09:57:39 AM »
Louis,

From what I am reading on your last post it would seem to me you are not providing your Staffers the equipment that will allow them to be successful on tour.  The tour conditions have been quite similiar the last 2 years.  Also, we know that

1) Tour Player have much higher rev rates
2) Due to this Friction management is the key to success
3) Other companies have the tools to help their staffers achieve number 2 which allows them to compete regularly for titles and not just be on tour.
4) With all that Track has out now as you state, that the newer equipment is filling holes. Is that really true as what we are seeing is no real success for the Track brand in a while.  Of course if you have a ball on tour that does well it equates to sales or none of you would be paying the admission fee for being on tour I would think (Lane 1 is a prime example of this)

Again, my point of contention is basically hearing how great the new pieces are but not having anything to base that on other than staffers.  For you to say "such and such balls does such and such compared to a Virtual Gravity" really has no basis unless backed with something that shows this.  I think many companies have gone this route and it has turned the bowler off to the Staff recs (Brunswick is one prime example I can think of). Tell us what the ball is supposed to do on what conditions and what we can expect and the customer would be quite happy. There is no need to say this ball ....compared to other balls.
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Re: We have never seen anything like this...
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2009, 11:44:06 AM »
I never compared our balls to any other brands balls so don't go there with me.

Several companies make great product. Track does not pay incentives to use the balls on TV. Other companies do. The bowlers will use what gives them more money on TV because they need every bit they can get. The show doesn't have the viewers it used to and outside of a few people, has limited influence over ball sales in the long run.

The run the Cell had two years ago is the exception.

The tour conditions were not the same the last two years in terms of volume. I am good friends with an exempt bowler and Mitch has also confirmed they hooked much more this year. The tour also had more rev rate and fewer lefties this year.

I always give nothing but my honest opinion on the balls. I say when I feel it will be useful. I have even stated on here that I am not asking bowlers to drill nothing but Track but the balls are special and I think everyone should have at least one in their three ball bag.

Send me a private message if you want to discuss further. I don't want this to be an argument but I am more than willing to discuss this with you further. The product speaks for itself. Just because thousands of people aren't throwing it and it isn't on TV doesn't mean it isn't great.
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Re: We have never seen anything like this...
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2009, 12:06:35 PM »
Prior to this post, my e-mails and PMs were pretty steady with questions about the 930T.  The most common questions were "How does it compare to the VG and/or a Cell?"  Whenever I pull out the 930T at the center, I get the same questions.  With that being said, I think that the comparissons that are here are completely legitmate.  If you want the basics on what the ball can do on what conditions, we are more than happy to give that to you.  That is also part of the job.  Most of the bowlers aren't asking me how this ball is going to react on Tour because they don't care.  They want to know if it's a better ball than they had in that spot in the bag last year.  In my opinion, as well as others who have posted in this thread...we feel it is a better ball.  Again this is what all manufacturers try to do.  Take something to the next level.
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Re: We have never seen anything like this...
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2009, 01:33:08 PM »
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I always give nothing but my honest opinion on the balls. I say when I feel it will be useful. I have even stated on here that I am not asking bowlers to drill nothing but Track but the balls are special and I think everyone should have at least one in their three ball bag.
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I do remember you saying this.
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Re: We have never seen anything like this...
« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2009, 11:17:03 AM »
i like track balls and have been waiting for something exciting from them.Having thrown the cell ,vg, mabic, wmb,and nvd,(which is strongest of all for me),I would really hate to be dissapointed again. the nvd is the only ball i have thrown that i would give the credo of heavy oiler. % to 7 boards stronger than the vg would be impressive,but will it be a spare ball like my rising in 6 months.
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Re: We have never seen anything like this...
« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2009, 11:32:08 AM »
The ball can't be BOTY. Lane#1 already has that locked up with the Dynamo
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