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Title: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on September 22, 2012, 08:00:49 PM
I have a NIB 15 # ball for sale fro 8 months and no takers is this ball a dud!
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: Rightycomplex on September 22, 2012, 08:12:17 PM
Newer track balls have come out. Its getting bad to the point where NIBs arent really selling losing value. How much do you want for it?
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: stc067 on September 22, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
What are you asking for it?I've never had a high end track ball, and if the price is right,I'd consider it.
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on September 22, 2012, 08:18:08 PM
$110.00 plus acutal shipping sell on buddies for 159.95
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: bigbandito on September 22, 2012, 08:18:26 PM
any pics , how much
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on September 22, 2012, 08:27:47 PM
weight 15.05  top 2 3/4 oz 3-4 pin this is a first not a 2nd or a blem still in the box


if you want pics please send your e-maill address
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: Rightycomplex on September 22, 2012, 08:29:13 PM
Hate to say it beard, but youre looking at 140ish for the consumer then having to get it drilled. So they are going to pay that much for the new 912T so unless they are really looking for that ball, no one is really going to be big on it. You may have to eat it price wise or drill it yourself.
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: bigbandito on September 22, 2012, 08:31:49 PM
send pics to : bigbandito2004@yahoo.com
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: Rightycomplex on September 22, 2012, 08:34:11 PM
Lol! I stand corrected! GET MONEY BEARD! Lol!
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: MrPerfect on September 22, 2012, 08:50:03 PM
Still haven't heard a price on this, what do you want for it including shipping?
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on September 22, 2012, 08:52:08 PM
just looked a buddies that ball is 159.95 shipped shipping on this ball will probably 15.00 that makes 125 total cost

Hate to say it beard, but youre looking at 140ish for the consumer then having to get it drilled. So they are going to pay that much for the new 912T so unless they are really looking for that ball, no one is really going to be big on it. You may have to eat it price wise or drill it yourself.
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: stc067 on September 22, 2012, 09:34:52 PM
Looks like you're not going to have an issue selling your 919c! It's a bit more than I wanted to spend, so good luck!
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on September 22, 2012, 09:59:36 PM
will trade for a amf green momba nib 15 #
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on September 23, 2012, 10:52:15 PM
tt
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on September 25, 2012, 08:48:01 PM
tt
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on September 27, 2012, 12:48:27 PM
needs to go 
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: jkiser01 on September 27, 2012, 01:54:03 PM
I would have blown it out along time ago.. At this point with other new balls now released, no one is going to want this one..
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on September 27, 2012, 03:46:25 PM
thanks for your answer no one wants a 159.00 ball as sold on buddies pro shop .com for 125.00 that would be a stupid buy. I can understand your comment.maybe you just have to much money and can only bring yourself to buy at full retail.keep up the good work and Neiman Markup  will soon sell new released bowling balls just for the rich like you! hurry hurry new releases are the only balls that can strike in your world.
How old does a new ball have to be before you know  that it is no good any more and you donate it to goodwill?
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: jkiser01 on September 27, 2012, 05:30:10 PM
Your reponse tells me all I need to know on why you have not sold that ball. If you dont want someones opinion, dont post something asking for it.
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: milorafferty on September 27, 2012, 05:59:12 PM
Put it on Ebay, you will find out real quick what it's worth.
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: billdozer on September 27, 2012, 06:13:20 PM
thanks for your answer no one wants a 159.00 ball as sold on buddies pro shop .com for 125.00 that would be a stupid buy. I can understand your comment.maybe you just have to much money and can only bring yourself to buy at full retail.keep up the good work and Neiman Markup  will soon sell new released bowling balls just for the rich like you! hurry hurry new releases are the only balls that can strike in your world.
How old does a new ball have to be before you know  that it is no good any more and you donate it to goodwill?

I feel track is the issue...they have notoriously failed to make a beyond decent high end ball....i know i will be able to get any high end ball from track for 70 bucks on clearance.  920 A's and T's ring the most recent bell.  Whens the last time they made a show? Besides fagan?  I know their good stuff is low to mid price....also i have several friends who have bought high end peices only to be dissappointed. 

Badbeard its not your fault, its tracks...they know it...the staffers know it..and i call b.s. on every highend ball release video they make.  Its almost comical when i watch one.  They know the 930t, 920A, 920t, 916AT, 919c, and now the 912t were not great balls..
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: loop_zero on September 28, 2012, 01:17:14 AM
I do not see track being the issue at all. I do though see a very biased opinion on the high end track gear. I have found there whole lineup including the 9 series as being very good equipment.  The reason the 919C is on clearance and not selling is that its old news, it has been out for over a year now. And yes you only seen Michael Fagan make shows rolling track but he did win a lot last season. With the exception of Sean Rash and Fagan it was all storm last season. The storm pay roll is huge compared to any other company. More pros rolling your equipment, the more you will see them on tv.
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: Rightycomplex on September 28, 2012, 10:30:27 AM
The 912T is actually a pretty good. The problem with 9 series ball is that the covers dont match up to the core. The intermediate diff was too high causing the ball to flare heavily and bleed too much energy before the break. The covers could not keep up especially on the THS. So they burned up on the THS and went 600 ft in the oil. That is why the 912T and 916AT were the most popular because they were more usable. Lowered the inter diff, ball doesnt over flare, makes consumers happy to watch the hockey stick.
Even with the release of the 912T and watching the track vid of Mitch and Mike comparing it to the 716T, there was only 2 boards at the arrows of separation. Why spend high performance money when you can get close to the same hook for $30 less?
Beard, I think you're price is very fair. However, this is the new nature of the beast. Once the latest and greatest come out the previous becomes obsolete unless they are extremely popular. This wasnt exactly a popular release so in my opinion you'd be better just drilling it or storing it. My .02.
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on September 28, 2012, 07:03:34 PM
still in the box and in the red plastic it came with so it can stay that way for now
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: jonesybaseball on September 30, 2012, 03:42:12 AM
Anyone looking to buy this ball will absolutely love it.. You can play so many angles with this ball its unreal, of course gotta make a hand position change to do so but still this ball strikes. Had mine pin up over the ring with the cg kicked out and took the cover down to 500 and it actually out hooked my 716t and snapped unbelievably hard.
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: elky57 on October 05, 2012, 08:43:14 PM
how does this ball compare to the track 916AT?
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: jonesybaseball on October 06, 2012, 07:57:50 AM
its a little less than the 916at, goes alot longer with the box surface on it. I actually was talking to the guy i sold mine to and he said he hates it, he said he cant carry any 10 pins with it which actually shocks me due to the fact i hardly ever had a 10 pin issue with that ball, it was always 4's and 7's for me. Now the guy i sold mine to is a stroker and plays right up the boards and im more of a tweener/power tweener. 
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: badbeard on October 07, 2012, 03:42:32 PM
ball still for sale make an offer
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: tommyboy74 on October 07, 2012, 06:42:14 PM
I agree with jonesybaseball.  My 919C definitely goes longer for a solid than pretty much anything I throw with the box surface.  However, I have had no carry issues using it and that is playing up the boards mostly with it.  Same goes for moving in with it too and using it on some longer patterns.  Overall, it's not a bad ball for me and have found it usable on a lot of medium and medium-heavy conditions when length is necessary.

It seems that the 919C was either hit or miss.  People either liked it or they didn't.  In my case, it has been a good ball.
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: Armstrong on January 16, 2013, 07:14:09 AM
Are you serious?  Based on what?


thanks for your answer no one wants a 159.00 ball as sold on buddies pro shop .com for 125.00 that would be a stupid buy. I can understand your comment.maybe you just have to much money and can only bring yourself to buy at full retail.keep up the good work and Neiman Markup  will soon sell new released bowling balls just for the rich like you! hurry hurry new releases are the only balls that can strike in your world.
How old does a new ball have to be before you know  that it is no good any more and you donate it to goodwill?

I feel track is the issue...they have notoriously failed to make a beyond decent high end ball....i know i will be able to get any high end ball from track for 70 bucks on clearance.  920 A's and T's ring the most recent bell.  Whens the last time they made a show? Besides fagan?  I know their good stuff is low to mid price....also i have several friends who have bought high end peices only to be dissappointed. 

Badbeard its not your fault, its tracks...they know it...the staffers know it..and i call b.s. on every highend ball release video they make.  Its almost comical when i watch one.  They know the 930t, 920A, 920t, 916AT, 919c, and now the 912t were not great balls..
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: zorchman on January 17, 2013, 09:39:37 PM
i have almost 20 track balls now.the 919 was a decent ball not a great one.but still good never the less.once you drill them sometimes i notice the sometimes become shot specific.had mine drilled pin right under finger no weight hole.sometimes it didnt roll well on a house shot but took to a tourney at the state.the shot they had out the ball rolled like money.sometimes it wont work and then there are times you will be glad you had it.i hated my 508a when i first drilled it.i have been putting different drillings on the new stuff.then they changed the shots in our leagues now its the only ball i want to use.if you dont like it dont give up on it.just put it away and use it later it will be just like a new ball when you pull it back out again.
Title: Re: what is wrong with the Track 919c
Post by: tommyboy74 on January 18, 2013, 12:19:14 AM
+1.  Even though I don't throw my Track 919C or 505T as much as I used to on the house shots, those balls have become valuable when it comes to bowling tournaments and sweepers when the sport shots come out.  Best thing I would say is not to give up on it.