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Aloarjr810

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Whats with the Phoenix?
« on: March 06, 2007, 12:30:48 PM »
Are they going to have it or not?
I've seen alot about it not being produced and stuff. Now I was talking with the proshop guy.
He said he got some paper from track saying they are going to produce it.
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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2007, 08:34:36 PM »
Someone had posted a while back about Ebonite saying no it won't be released.  I know there are a few out there on eBay that are selling for a nice amount.
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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2007, 10:16:44 AM »
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well my dist.  does not have them,   yet some online dealer in las vagas has them for sale.  strange?????


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the dealer in LV bought his before the distributor ran out.  Or he uses a different distributor than you do.  Or he bought them directly from Track, cutting out the distributor altogether.  Or the distributor has conspired with the dealer in LV to keep you out of the market for this particular ball.  I actually heard that the LV guy doesn't like pro shops and thinks that ball companies should sell drilled balls directly to the customer.  He's secretly a front for the new Tiger Woods Bowling and Golf Supply, selling clubs that say "Made in USA" when they're really made in China.  Tiger's supposedly quitting the tour so he can open a distributorship.>>><>><>

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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2007, 10:21:47 AM »
Ebonite sent a memo to my pro shop guy (and I am sure alot of other pro shops)and it stated they had tested the Phoenix and decided not to release it as it was being marketed, that being a high performance ball..

It sounds like they where not happy with the tests they performed with it..
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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2007, 12:09:29 PM »
Bowlinglasvegas.com is one the largest Columbia/Track dealers in the world, they had all of the balls ordered on the fast track program. They had a large preorder setup with the PBA stop that came to town and was running a special on them at the same time. Is there something wrong with setting up a meet and greet and promoting the product at the same time???

They had meet and greets for Ebonite/Hammer, Brunswick, Storm and Columbia/Track with the PBA exempt players and promoting each brands products during the tournament. Smart business maybe someone else will get smart enough to do the same thing when a stop hits there area.

No black market just a great pro shop doing smart business thats all

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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2007, 12:13:02 PM »
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well my dist.  does not have them,   yet some online dealer in las vagas has them for sale.  strange?????

he quoted me $175 plus $20 shipping.  

adam@bowlinglasvegas.com

I emailed that guy three days ago and still no reply.  Oh well.
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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2007, 12:17:34 PM »
Adam has been off the floor and giving lessons in there training center, so resend the email to Ken@bowlinglasvegas.com and you will get an answer back. He is the owner you will get a return email if they still have any left or not, they are good guys so try again.

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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2007, 12:44:56 PM »
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well my dist.  does not have them,   yet some online dealer in las vagas has them for sale.  strange?????


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the dealer in LV bought his before the distributor ran out.  Or he uses a different distributor than you do.  Or he bought them directly from Track, cutting out the distributor altogether.  Or the distributor has conspired with the dealer in LV to keep you out of the market for this particular ball.  I actually heard that the LV guy doesn't like pro shops and thinks that ball companies should sell drilled balls directly to the customer.  He's secretly a front for the new Tiger Woods Bowling and Golf Supply, selling clubs that say "Made in USA" when they're really made in China.  Tiger's supposedly quitting the tour so he can open a distributorship.>>><>><>

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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 12:54:52 PM »
Do you know anything but the BS you post on here??? They are one of the largest dealers in the world on bowling equipment, i feel sorry for anybody stupid enough to deal with you. I read the whining and crying that all you do is slam people and belly ache, you must have nothing better to do then pretend that you are a good pro shop operator. I am sorry that you do not have the loyalty and success that they do, notice that they can get the PBA exempt players to show and sign for there customers. You on the other hand are nothing but BS on here, like your attack on ebonite stuff when everyone ball compnay practices the same business tactics.

Guys like you drove off poor Ron Hickland and screw it up for the rest of us, thanks buddy if you come to bowl expo i would love to meet you and see if you are that nuts in real life.




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Bowlinglasvegas.com is one the largest Columbia/Track dealers in the world, they had all of the balls ordered on the fast track program. They had a large preorder setup with the PBA stop that came to town and was running a special on them at the same time. Is there something wrong with setting up a meet and greet and promoting the product at the same time???

They had meet and greets for Ebonite/Hammer, Brunswick, Storm and Columbia/Track with the PBA exempt players and promoting each brands products during the tournament. Smart business maybe someone else will get smart enough to do the same thing when a stop hits there area.

No black market just a great pro shop doing smart business thats all




please>>>>>   where do you come up with this stuff.   more then likely then got some due to the fact that a pba tour stop was in town.   my dist. knows of them.  most of the LARGEST dist.  in the business,  did not receive any phoenix balls.  and they had boo koo of them pre sold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and that's a lot.
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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2007, 12:57:07 PM »
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Ebonite sent a memo to my pro shop guy (and I am sure alot of other pro shops)and it stated they had tested the Phoenix and decided not to release it as it was being marketed, that being a high performance ball..

It sounds like they where not happy with the tests they performed with it..
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I was talking to a pro shop guy, and he said the ball is a dud, and Ebo was not interested in it.
This is just 2nd hand info....take it for what it's worth.
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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2007, 01:09:52 PM »
mr bowl nut,   step back and take it easy.

as you said,  they probably got the balls from the pba tour stop.  no problem with that.  and no problem with them trying to sell them.

as for them being the wal mart of bowling,  please,  give it a rest.

i talked with my dist.   and they filled me in on them.   so please,  stop trying to act like your mr bowling.  

and as for ron running an hiding.   so sad to bad.   i had nothing to do with that.

as i remember,  there were many with questions on the inf. one.  and ron was telling all that it would go long.  and many real pro shops did not believe it.  and had the nerve to question mr ron.

well guess what mr nut.   it did not go long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gee.  maybe it was that 500 pad finish.   you think!!!!!

so get off your high horsy.   and grow up.  just because real pro shops don't always believe that pigs can fly>>>> does not make us stupid.

and the first review on the ball was from a pba stffer who said,  the ball checked up early { in the 500 box finish }  and he adjusted the cover with polish to get the length he desired.

so excuse us real pro shops for daring to question mr ron.   you know the guy that said the ball will go long in the box finish.  
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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2007, 01:24:58 PM »
duke,

I totally agree with you... I just think ebonite did not want the consumers mad at them for putting out a ball that they did not feel met thier standards.. I see nothing wrong with that..
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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2007, 01:25:05 PM »
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Is that a pot I see you stirring over there?


Puh-lease, that pot practically stirs itself.  All we need now is for Chad to make his comments.

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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2007, 01:30:21 PM »
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How can I get in contact with your proshop, jls?

That was for you, shelley.


Better to say something like "Tiger Woods would never do that, he's probably just resting at home after his great second uncle passed away."

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Re: Whats with the Phoenix?
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2007, 01:41:20 PM »
shelly,  about tiger,
the police station is just 4 blocks away.

hi chad,  how you doing today?
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