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Where do you see Track?
« on: July 04, 2003, 09:10:10 AM »
I believe Track is releasing the best stuff on the market right now, especially in the highend equipment. But where do you really see Track as a whole? I mean in most bowler's minds they cannot see them in the same category as Brunswick, Columbia300, Ebonite, or Storm. I think Track has to keep up the pace they are currently on for atleast 5 years to even scratch the surface of where those companies are.

As I see it, bowlers right now may see them as low as 5th or 6th as far as companies go. Brunswick and Columbia have been around for so long that people just go by the name and pick a ball.

I hope others will start to see how great of a company they are, and the quality of equipment they are putting out. I now I have, and I probably have never had as profitable a season as I did last year thanks to the morpheous core design.
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2003, 12:56:05 AM »
I personally put Track at number 1 in my book. As a whole, I see them at probably a number 5 behind manufacturers that are already proven successes such as Brunswick, Columbia, Storm  and Ebonite. Hmmm, now that I think about it, put em at number 4. I dont think Ebonite is all that great!!
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2003, 02:40:56 AM »
when it comes to high end equipment track compleately out does any other ball manufacturer out.  but in my experience i would rank them probably #4 when it comes to other equipment.  i put columbia, storm, and then ebonite before them.  but where they have good midline and dry equipment, track has great high end equipment.  Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2003, 07:22:44 AM »
Right now, I see them as trying to cover every bowler's release for every condition from medium to heavy oil with HUGE hooks. They seem to have nothing that will cover less than medium oil unless you take the time to do special drillings with special surface modifications. They also have nothing that provides any sense of control, again, unless you are a fluffer or you do special drillings and special surface mods. To my mind, this is very much in the Ebonite rationale of designing bowling balls.

I see them as providing mostly very derivative balls with few original concepts, except the Morpheus core which *appears* to make every ball flip unmercifully unless it has an extremely grippy/lane grabbing coverstock.

Those who faces tons of oil, have ferocious speed or who do not put many revs on the ball may like their equipment, but I find their balls very limiting. The only one that has the least interest for me is the Thrash and I already have several balls covering its territory.

They've discontinued the 3 best balls that they had developed in a long time: the VooDoo, the Hex and the Mojo.

I also see them trying to enter the Brunswick, Columbia, Ebonite and Storm "ball of the month club", while, at this point in time, the current leading contenders, Storm & Columbia, seem to be trying to organize a rational set of balls.

I do not see any rhyme or reason to the path down which Del Warren is trying to take this company. I get his newsletters describing the rationale behind the development of each new ball, but when every ball *appears* different by only 1 foot in length and 1 board in hook, I cannot say I understand what he is doing.
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2003, 11:50:12 AM »
I've only one Track ball in my bag, BUT the Threat is everything that BTM said it was for a stroker. If the Threat is only their middle of the road stuff I would rate them as high as Storm, which I believe, is the best in the business right now.
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2003, 12:19:24 PM »
Maybe I phrased it wrong. Let me try to restate what I meant.

Bruswick is the name that most older bowlers relate to because they have been around so long.

Track is #1 in book as well, but they are probably #4 or #5 when someone things of a bowling ball company.
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2003, 03:05:00 PM »
Excaliber,

Still not sure what you mean if my reply was off target. If it was, I apologize.

I believe that Track has unlimited potential and some great balls. I am 110% uncertain where Dell Warren is leading Track. I am usually not so "blind" to the way certain balls indicate a certain direction a company intends to go.
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2003, 03:23:26 PM »
charlest,

I was not saying that your post was off at all. I think the way it was taken by a couple of the other people as their opinion, when in reality what I was asking is how they see it from a sense of how it really is, and not really how the feel
OK, I MAY HAVE CONFUSED MYSELF WITH THAT ONE.

I understand completely what you are saying about where Track is headed, and I agree to point. I think the coverstocks on the balls with the morpheous core are very versatile. And as I am sure you are aware, you can get most of the desired reaction based on coverstock alterations more than you can with the layout on the ball.
I have stated before in this forum that I really wish Track would come out with a 3pc, or even a very weak reactive. That is really in my opinion all that they lack. I know that Track does not want to produce a ball in that category, but if we cryout loud enough companies will have no choice but to deliver on our wishes.
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2003, 04:39:13 PM »
Excaliber,

I see where you're comng from ( I think).
I wonder sometimes when we complain too loudly to any manufacturer of any product. YOu have to include some words of praise or their human part will close down and read the words that are written.

Track's last mild ball was the Pearl Stomp. GUess they didn't sell many but those who bought it loved it.
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2003, 11:24:58 PM »
see, the problem i always find with balls that are for "dry oil" and what i've heard other peoples reaction is that they always hook too much. really, if were to make any suggestion at all, is that track gets some balls and produces a pearl urethane with the morpheus core. every other ball company makes nothing more then medium balls either really, so i dont no what u ppl are complaining about. companys tell us theyre dry oil, but they never are. i have an tornado drilled very weak and it is a medium oil ball. the only dry oil ball i have is my polished dead freak, so they do make dry balls, since the freak died so fast on so many ppl
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2003, 12:31:33 AM »
tracks one of my favorite brands but their lack of lighter oil ball equiptment isnt much to choose from. but thats ok i could always get a lightter only ball from storm or lane 1 etc.

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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2003, 01:13:33 AM »
there not exactly made by columbia, there just owned by them. its like what record companies do:they give freedom for somebody else to do the work for them with they're equipment and made money off of them. thats basically how all of those companys u mentioned work
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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2003, 07:53:55 AM »
Have you thrown a crunch?? That doesn't move all that much for most people. I LOVE the 2 i have, and both are very controllable. Why don't you throw something before you trash it.

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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2003, 09:08:30 AM »
I think Track makes great bowling balls.  More on the strong side for sure.

Right now no higher rg balls at all, the Hextreme was the last.

I just saw a Track Staffers balls come in from the tour and mixed in he had a Track Heat, Hextreme, and a Track Code Red.  All milder balls with pure reactive no particle.

This is the area I bet they'll pursue next.

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Re: Where do you see Track?
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2003, 12:13:38 AM »
In my opinion Track has to be the 4th or 5th in order of quality.  Sure their high end stuff is excellent.  Probaly the best on the market but you cannot make a major arsenal for the more experienced players that bowl on a variety of conditions and drier shots.  When the least aggressive ball in their lineup in terms of specs are the Crunch and Mojo something is wrong because the Mojo and Crunch are very strong balls.  They have also said that they don't plan on making any balls for the lower end because they feel the average league bowler won't buy it because about 70% of your house bowlers want to buy the biggest hooking newest ball availible(and I think they're right just by looking at the sale of all of their hook monsters).  In my opinion as far as companies that make equipment for every style and type of bowler and every condition imaginable it is:

1: Ebonite
2. Brunswick(Most durable coverstocks in the business)
3. Storm/Roto Grip(Everything in their lineup is freaking incredible, roto grip that is.  You have to use it to believe it.  Storm also has excellent cover/core matches)
4. Columbia(still haven't made a great long lasting particle coverstock)
5. Track(nothing for the lower end)
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